How old is everyone? [Archive]

ShawnD

09-03-2002, 07:23 AM

i'll put this in non regular terms for all the geeks ehehehe
10000 in binary
XVI in old school Roman
20 in octal
10 in hex

i've been coding PHP for about 3 weeks, i bought my PHP book several weeks ago but there's been only 3 weeks where i was not camping.
only work i've ever done is the switch on my page so it makes me look super smart lol

true future profoession: C++ programmer

Weedpacket

09-03-2002, 07:54 AM

Originally posted by ShawnD
i'll put this in non regular terms for all the geeks ehehehe
10000 in binary
XVI in old school Roman
20 in octal
10 in hex

Heh, you missed dyadic, negabinary and fibonacci notations :)

1112 in dyadic
10000 in negabinary (exercise for the reader: what's the diff?)
100100 in fibonacci

ShawnD

09-03-2002, 09:03 AM

pffft jerk ;)

what are those? like where are they used?
oh and this isn't actually your picture is it?
http://www.phpbuilder.com/board/avatar.php?userid=132314&dateline=1029321418

Weedpacket

09-03-2002, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by ShawnD
pffft jerk ;)

what are those? like where are they used?

Great God Google knows.
Hmm. interesting initials - especially when the array is 0-indexed...

dyadic notation (http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/mhe/plume/node101.html)
negabinary notation (http://www.arl.psu.edu/publications/pdfs/number_rep_reduce.pdf)
fibonacci notation (http://mathforum.org/discuss/sci.math/t/207334)

oh and this isn't actually your picture is it?
http://www.phpbuilder.com/board/avatar.php?userid=132314&dateline=1029321418
Why do you ask? Want to make a date?

ShawnD

09-03-2002, 09:34 AM

dude that new avatar sucks, the old was way better...looks like a stoned alphred hitch**** sort of ;)

Weedpacket

09-03-2002, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by ShawnD
dude that new avatar sucks, the old was way better...looks like a stoned alphred hitch**** sort of ;)

Just letting you know what I could've used - the one that illustrates some of the perils of a bad wig and near-vertical lighting.

I'm now switching back to my "bright and bushy-tailed" portrait.

You've been out-geeked, I'm 'fraid - but then, I've had more experience than you :p

ShawnD

09-03-2002, 06:59 PM

i don't even what the hell you're talking about lol :D

james2010

09-03-2002, 07:24 PM

My birthday is date("Y-m-d", 472204800)

need I say more..

robwatts2

09-04-2002, 08:02 AM

34 :mad: been at php for 6 months and love it!!:D

hmm this edit things is handy, mind you, maybe too handy for mischievants perhaps !

marianna

09-04-2002, 04:41 PM

I'm 21 (and that's in decimal)

to psy and examancer:
don't be so pessimistic - if you look, you can find a job especially if you're in college. when I started the co-op job I have now, I was just under 19. I've learned tons. Oh, and as a word of advise, don't try to pigeonhole yourself into web technologies at the moment before your career has even started.
the market is bad right now, but that is why companies now like to hire students - lower pay, less commitment, no benefits - we're a bargain

bastien

09-04-2002, 09:08 PM

32...learned PHP after ASP and gasp! BASIC - okay it was high school and I can figure out VB now but hey...

weekender

09-05-2002, 04:12 PM

marianna - go girl! i'm 21, and half way through an Intelligent Systems degree in the uk - i went on placement with an IT company, for a fairly basic wage. Now they've asked me to stay for another year (based on skill - not age or experience) and are paying me a good salary.

youth unite!

marianna

09-05-2002, 07:31 PM

thanks weekender!

that job of yours sounds awesome!
I'm going to finish my Master's Degree in Computer Science in December so I'm already looking for a job - the market is lousy right now

bastien

09-05-2002, 07:33 PM

what is a good salary?...in Canada i'm doing $40K about 18K sterling...

weekender

09-06-2002, 06:44 AM

bastien... on my placement i was on £12k, but for the next year i'm on £30k pro rata. I wanted to continue studying part time, so i've arranged it so that if i don't work a day, i don't get paid for that day. Assuming i work full time, i will get £30k tho.

Marianna where abouts is your masters? I have a directory of the top 100 IT sector employees in the UK...

marianna

09-06-2002, 11:55 AM

I'm in the US, Texas to be specific
I'd love to live in Europe some day, but I can't really move anywhere till my husband finish his degree as well
thanks though

chads2k2

09-07-2002, 01:44 PM

marianna Hell ya baby!

You hit that right on the head about the youth. I'm 19 and been hired out (outsourcing work) to large corporations looking to get a young programmer/layout designer to do their ***** work. I made their site function better and look cooler! Too bad I signed that damn contract that tells me I cannot disclose who I worked for. :( But it was fun while I did it! I was 18 then and now being 19 I have learned more than I could have ever bargined for so to you young designers get your friends together that know how to design and program and start a web design company! Heck thats what I did. www.brokenformula.com

We are still working on our site b/c we are all SOOOOO busy! It all works but we are getting the content a little better here soon. DO NOT GIVE UP HOPE THOUGH! Don't look at big companies look at the small pizza shops and small shops that you know doesn't know **** about computers and explain what having a website could potentially do for their company and how it could produce more profit for them. Its all about presentation and admiration. Spelling helps to ;) So just don't give up hope and keep your heads high if your a young designer/programmer. When the market comes back into focus it will give you an advantage. Learn as much as you can now (when the market blows) so when it comes into limelight again you will dominate.

That is my $.02.

Chad R. Smith
President of Broken Formula
www.brokenformula.com

mw-dnb

09-07-2002, 06:13 PM

i'm 21 almost 22. I've been programming since 1994. Have owned and operated my own software company since I was 17. I've recently decided to learn PHP / SQL so I've been reading up and researching a lot of it. While it seems primitive compared to some of the other languages i've worked with, I really enjoy the simplicity and powerfulness PHP can put into a websites and web applications.

Anyway nice to meet you all and this really seems like a nice site with people working toghther ;).

Namadoor

09-08-2002, 03:36 PM

Hmm. I thought there would be a few more people around my age (14)...

simon13

09-09-2002, 05:49 PM

Started 2 months ago, i'm still 30!

roger20

09-09-2002, 05:53 PM

Hey Weedpacket, come clean and make me feel better (or even worse).

Roger (42 - Ouch!)

tshafer

09-09-2002, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by Namadoor
Hmm. I thought there would be a few more people around my age (14)...

hey dude! Im 15...

erikwebb

09-09-2002, 08:31 PM

I'm 15 and have been working with PHP/MySQL for a little over a year now.

xentrix

09-10-2002, 12:09 PM

I´m 29 and I started to learn PHP/MySQL three years ago.

Tekime

09-10-2002, 12:58 PM

23 years in body.
18 years in spirirt.
14 years in mind.
2 years in coding skills.

:D

edit: Or rather, the coding skills of a 2 year old ;)

Frag

09-12-2002, 01:42 PM

28 (soon to be 29) started sql and php about 2 years ago.

I'm in Texas also :)

clearbreach

09-12-2002, 04:24 PM

I'm 16 and I've been doing PHP for +/- a year.

bealers

09-13-2002, 07:31 PM

the_Igel

09-17-2002, 10:35 AM

22. A year in PHP. As most of you guys here.

wsh

09-25-2002, 03:16 PM

started at 12 .. now 15. (I didnt know PHP when I was 12.. just started web development... learned php @ 14)...

intenz

09-25-2002, 04:36 PM

I'm 16 years old now, started coding in PHP when I was 15.

Rayn

09-26-2002, 08:31 AM

I am 19.. be doing web development since I was 14.

clearbreach

09-26-2002, 11:52 AM

I'm glad to see I'm not the only teenager here :D

dantone

09-26-2002, 03:17 PM

21. About a year and a half ago.

Trojan

10-01-2002, 12:04 PM

23,

hmmm feel kinda old

Yamakazi

10-02-2002, 10:46 AM

20 years old
Writing php for 4 months.
Writing php 8 hours a day now.

brøken

10-02-2002, 04:25 PM

im 19, act 12, look 17 and uh.. wait, whats php again? :D

juschillinnow

10-02-2002, 05:17 PM

Will be 20 on the 18th > started when I was 18. Hey anybody know of anyplace hiring for php programmers? I'm looking for a career.

aircombat

10-06-2002, 07:46 PM

Doing PHP 10 months now when I can. Do some ASP at work. I have seen the Apple II computer with 16k (yes thats K) of RAM and a cheesy cassette tape player to upload the program. I have seen vacuum tube radios, 67 GTOs, 8 track tape players and Disco. The first show I ever remember seeing on TV ( black and white TV ) as a baby was The Mr. Ed Show ( prime time, not re-runs ) I am 40. But as Austin Powers says: "I am one sexy B**** ! Yeah baby!"

nangial

10-08-2002, 10:31 AM

29, that almost makes me a senior citizen in theese parts... Been in touch with php now and then for about two-three years. But im so old that I never seem to remember anything.

Bunkermaster

10-08-2002, 11:09 AM

/me waves at other "old" guy

never try to remember everything, just remember how to find what you need in the manual :D

kaumilpatel

10-08-2002, 01:57 PM

Got involved with computers when I was 10. The Internet when I was 13 and now I'm 18. Still ticking :)

nangial

10-09-2002, 03:46 AM

waves back! :cool:

Good idea.

gid

10-09-2002, 06:05 PM

First looked at php code in 1998, started my fulltime job writing it in april, 1999, am still writing it (for the same company) at age 27.

So I guess I've had a bit of experience. Funny looking back at some of my first php code and thinking, omg what was I ON? :)

danielle

10-11-2002, 03:16 PM

i would like to formally protest the fact that 30ish is now considered old. of course my back is killing me and i sure would like a nap.

31 here and doing php for 2 years. first language i learned was COBOL... ah the good old days of writing 10000 lines of code for each app.

Sxooter

10-11-2002, 05:59 PM

Huh! Speak up! I can't hear ya with ma hearin' aids out!

There are lotsa of Cobol programmers where I work, and they all seem to have picked up PHP pretty fast, as well as Postgresql.

Heck, they make OO Cobol now. It's definitely not a dead language yet.

Now let me go find that bunyon pad.

Bunkermaster

10-11-2002, 08:11 PM

COBOL... Last time I touched COBOL was in 1999 on a Y2K project where I was managing the QA teams in an insurance company... Scared me so much I almost gave up IT.
When I heard of OO COBOL I hoped it was a joke then I saw a Web server where you can only program in COBOL... That's when i realized our civilization cannot last long

no1uknowdfw

10-29-2002, 05:44 PM

34

They call me Grand Pa in the PHP World...

My hearing is not so good but my PHP is still kickin...:eek:

exponder

10-29-2002, 11:21 PM

23 here, started programming on a webtv Box *coughs* at 18 with html/js/shtml and moved on to cgi and asp. Now php..

PyroX

10-30-2002, 02:19 AM

jabba_29

10-30-2002, 03:50 AM

33.

Been doing PHP stuff for about 6 months I suppose.

Glad I am not the only one close to pension :p

javen

10-30-2002, 05:06 AM

22 yrs old. started in the designing field, currently moving to coding. php roxs.

barand

10-31-2002, 06:13 AM

Started in computing and systems design after uni in '68. PC's and databases since early-mid 80's. Started ASP couple of years ago and PHP this year. Seen a few changes.

clintonium

10-31-2002, 02:36 PM

During my larval stage (which spanned roughly 27 seasons) I learned html/css/ssi/javascript/perl. Now I'm gestating as a php/sql pupa and hope to emerge early next year as some sort of guru moth.

At that point I may change my name to Arthur.

ahundiak

11-01-2002, 10:11 AM

44.

Looks like I got the oldest posted age so far. Friend of mine just turned 81 and is still going strong using Fortran.

Elizabeth

11-01-2002, 12:42 PM

31 here,

Started with BASIC back in the good ol' days of Atari in the 80's... remember when you had to actually take the phone handset and plug it in to hook up? And software came in cassette tape media?

And we won't even talk about the legwarmers and parachute pants :)

Elizabeth

Tekron-X

11-01-2002, 12:42 PM

I am at a youthfilled age of 16 :)

And I can program in Java2 VB6 HTML and PHP
I think that is an accomplishment lol ;)

Oh and I will learn C++ this summer. :)

barand

11-01-2002, 01:18 PM

To Ahundiak - your're just a youngster yet.

alienbaby

11-09-2002, 05:14 PM

i'm 39 and darn proud of it :D

Bunkermaster

11-09-2002, 10:22 PM

is this the old pride or something? ;)

Weedpacket

11-10-2002, 12:58 AM

Well, I'm not feeling quite so superannuated now; at least I'm not the only one who can remember when computers filled rooms. I remember one that had a big red switch labelled 'EMERGENCY STOP - PULL". I think the idea was that it would drop an insulating guillotine through the power cable I'd pulled it. Ah, computers were simpler in those days...

Bunkermaster

11-10-2002, 07:35 AM

Originally posted by Weedpacket
...at least I'm not the only one who can remember when computers filled rooms...

They still do :) MAINFRAME :eek:

Mark

11-15-2002, 12:22 AM

i'm 17, started php like 3 months ago.

coditoergosum

11-15-2002, 11:58 AM

I'm 24 now... started coding PHP when I was 21. It's come a long way in those 3 years... Before that I had some java and C++ under my belt.

IWS

11-15-2002, 11:58 PM

Bunkermaster

11-18-2002, 06:00 AM

HB2U

Shadeless

11-19-2002, 10:13 AM

i'm to young to feel old, to old to feel yong..
i'm not old but i feel old
i'm not young but i feel young

makes any sense? guess not :D

sweetkisses.net

11-19-2002, 11:50 AM

Im 19 years old :D (in february - 20 :D)

Bunkermaster

11-19-2002, 12:41 PM

I am too old to feel and to yound not to be felt :confused:

dalecosp

11-30-2002, 07:30 PM

I'm 36, and started PHP at 35, which was like 2 months ago?

But I see I joined the forum in July, so it must have been like 4 months ago....

About getting old, I guess you lose track of time?

dalecosp

planetsim

12-01-2002, 02:21 AM

Well Im 15 now i started Web development when i was 14 stopped for 6months.. then started after i turned 15 and looked at PHP.. I was goin to do ASP.. by im a Cheepo.. and was too lazy to spend money.. PHP looked better..

Oh ive been PHP'ing for 5months.. YAY me.. Im learning so fast

dalecosp

12-01-2002, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by mrmufin

No, I'm 4 now. I learned PHP when I was 3. Before that I was a UNIX sys admin and Sybase DBA.

OK, so your birthday is February 29th?

dalecosp

PS> Even at that, it's a tad young for Sybase.....;)

Traduim

12-03-2002, 07:19 AM

I'm 22 :-(

Shadeless

12-03-2002, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by Traduim
I'm 22 :-(

yea know what u feel.... 30's coming soooo close now.. soon and we can retire

GodzMessanja

12-06-2002, 07:40 AM

I am 14 too! I jumped around a bit with Java, Flash (which I am currently involved in), ColdFusion, ASP, and python :rolleyes: .

Weedpacket

12-06-2002, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by dalecosp

OK, so your birthday is February 29th?

dalecosp

PS> Even at that, it's a tad young for Sybase.....;)

And are you counting Earth years?

(Oh, crap - I just realised what that would mean for localisation!)

rklapwijk

04-14-2003, 09:05 PM

started with html,jscript and stuff like when i was 17. Started with ASP, PHP and stuff like that when i was 18 i guess. Wow, coding PHP for 2 a 3 years now :eek:

dartcol

05-08-2003, 08:37 AM

A little older than this thread X30.
Fifth cycle, fourth decade, third country, second brain and first marriage.
Oh, and 2nd year of anything to do with computers - hated them until I was 29.
A bit like peanut butter and marmite I guess.

Dracore

06-24-2003, 08:48 PM

12 when I learned PHP, 13 now.

dalecosp

06-24-2003, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by dartcol
A little older than this thread X30.
Fifth cycle, fourth decade, third country, second brain and first marriage.
Oh, and 2nd year of anything to do with computers - hated them until I was 29.
A bit like peanut butter and marmite I guess. Hmm, anyone know what marmite is?

Yeah, I could STFW and have it in two minutes or less ("yea dictionary.com!", huh, Elizabeth?) but it's much more fun to keep the thread alive and hear it from somebody else...maybe it'll celebrate a birthday, too, soon....

Oh, BTW, congratulations on teenhood, Dracore; stay away from dope-dealers, keg parties, suicidal rock bands, and wayward women, please --- teen-aged ain't what it used to be.... ;)

Weedpacket

06-24-2003, 10:14 PM

Yep, it's dark brown yeast extract.
Tastes like it, too.

dalecosp

06-24-2003, 10:23 PM

Thanks, great king of the answers!

"It's not that good..." hmm? BTW, nah, never mind ...

/me shuts up

dartcol

06-24-2003, 11:50 PM

Spread the marmite thinly on toast with an ample dollop of real butter.

Never mix your peanut butter with your marmite - even if it's your birthday.
:D

cgraz

06-24-2003, 11:57 PM

18. Started diving into PHP about the same time I registered on these forums; so like end of November 2002.

BTW, has anyone noticed how popular the emoticons are on these boards? I've seen like 5-7 in one post before (on other threads)!!

Cgraz

dalecosp

06-25-2003, 12:19 AM

Well, we all wink at Elizabeth, ;) and we always smile at Bunkermaster, lest something be construed wrongly, :) (he's big and tough, y'know...) :eek:

Yep, lots of emoticons here. :(

The latest, of course, is the use of the [IMG] tag, which allowed FraxTC to post about 14 "smileys" :cool: from some other source :mad: in the "Big Thread Pictures" thread :rolleyes: ....

:p :) :D

BTW, if you count the emoticons in this message, you'll know (in advance) the maximum number of images allowed in one post by board policy; umm, I'd smile here, but...

Bunkermaster

06-25-2003, 05:17 AM

Originally posted by dalecosp
we always smile at Bunkermaster, lest something be construed wrongly, :) (he's big and tough, y'know...) :eek:...[/size]
Do not fear me young jedi for I am just in my use of my uber might

FraXTC

06-25-2003, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by dalecosp
[B]The latest, of course, is the use of the [IMG] tag, which allowed FraxTC to post about 14 "smileys" :cool: from some other source :mad: in the "Big Thread Pictures" thread :rolleyes: ....

Smileys rule http://80.247.200.11/forum/images/smilies/headbang.gif

Ofcourse... You can always put them cool smileys between the standard smileys here and upload them to the images dir of phpbuilder http://80.247.200.11/forum/images/smilies/peace.gif

And emoticons are great to express yourself..Coz you know what they say..one smiley says more then a thousand words http://www.mindit.nl/vbbforum/images/smilies/vb_shutup.gif

danville

06-25-2003, 12:28 PM

Started about a year ago, I am 22 now.

goldbug

06-25-2003, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by FraXTC

And emoticons are great to express yourself..Coz you know what they say..one smiley says more then a thousand words http://www.mindit.nl/vbbforum/images/smilies/vb_shutup.gif

It's a little known fact....
Kafka's Metamorphosis was actually first released as a one page book, with a single smiley in the center of the page.

:)

FrozNic

06-25-2003, 08:05 PM

oi, it makes me laugh that people tell me that companies won't hire youngens :P i'm 18. been 18 for.. i can't read or write, but im sure it's like 11 months. i first worked for a company doing php work when i was 15, i admin'd 4 sites ^.~ using php/mysql/iis/perl/nt4 that was at 15. since then i'm now working on a more global scheme. working in php/java/mysql/apache/*nix. who says people won't hire 18 year olds in the programming market!?! learn more if u aren't gettin hired :)

BuzzLY

06-26-2003, 01:06 PM

The problem isn't age. They won't hire you nowadays unless you know EXACTLY what they want to hire you for. No more, no less. If you know less, they don't care how well you can learn it. If you know more, you're "over-qualified," and will just leave when a better job comes along (so they think). How do I know this? 6 months in the unemployment line.

Don't tell me I have to "learn more" to get hired. More than half won't hire me because I know too much. The rest won't hire me because even though I have 10 years of programming experience, I have never had practical work experience with C++. Or perl. Or whatever other lame thing they want me to have knowledge in. Experience with OOP and the ability to learn new technologies mean nothing.

At least, that's my experience over the last few months.

FrozNic

06-26-2003, 02:57 PM

sory buzzly, wasn't trying to direct that at you.. or anyone over 18 for that matter.. i was just trying to get the point across that if u want something bad enough at a young age, it can happen. or at least that's what i think. ~peace :)

goldbug

06-26-2003, 03:08 PM

Yeah, maybe, unless you want a beard and grey hair, and you're like 12. :)

BuzzLY

06-26-2003, 03:30 PM

I know... it's cool. My response was not really directed at you, either, but the ignoramuses (ignorami?) that call themselves HR directors or Recruiters. I actually had a recruiter for Kforce tell me that he was only going to look for Lotus Notes jobs for me -- that no client was going to want someone that is looking to learn new things. He completely dismissed my web building / HTML / ASP / PHP skills! Take a good guess whether or not he has called me in the last 6 months...

elToro

06-26-2003, 03:55 PM

I must have been 20 when I started working with PHP. I'm not quite 24 presently.

benkillin

06-28-2003, 10:36 AM

I am 15, I just turned it last week on the 17th.

stolzyboy

06-28-2003, 05:32 PM

normally, HR people look around for other "related" jobs, then add in other words that they don't even know and expect you to be able to write an OS or something, but yet all you really need to is a web prog. language, then they want to pay you 30 cents a week to do it

dalecosp

06-28-2003, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by stolzyboy
normally, HR people look around for other "related" jobs, then add in other words that they don't even know and expect you to be able to write an OS or something, but yet all you really need to is a web prog. language, then they want to pay you 30 cents a week to do it That makes them sound like 'ignorami' to me, if there were such a word. Ignoramuses, indeed.

stolzyboy

06-29-2003, 05:37 PM

yes they are definitely being ignorant, that is why it is hard most of the time for them to find decent people to do the job

BuzzLY

06-30-2003, 12:33 AM

... hence my frustration. I am not one to presume that I am so much better than everyone else, but I have seen some truly clueless people in jobs, and often wondered how they got (and kept!) those jobs. What diabolical secret do they know that lands them the job?

Perhaps I need to learn HR-ese. If I knew how to speak it, I would be a shoe-in!

dalecosp

06-30-2003, 07:53 PM

Well, it's possible that you need to learn to play golf, have a nice looking wife and 2 beautiful kids with a nice house in a 'reputable' suburb ... but then, that's a real guess. ;)

I just got done sending a friend who *used to be* in HR an explanation of why the "UPS Uniforms Stolen" email is a hoax ... seems the URL I sent had wrapped in the mailer and she didn't know to C 'n' P it into the addy window .....

... Maybe you just need to take "stupid" pills. I know that you aren't, in your native state, as dumb as that.... (Not that I don't like her, she is a GREAT person, but she's not I.T. material, fer sure.....) :confused:

FraXTC

07-01-2003, 04:45 AM

Talking about non-techies.... (Not made up!!)

My uncle is a programmer by profession, and he once wrote a program for some dude. he dropped by to deliver the disks that contained the program, and asked if he needed help... The guy said "no I can handle it, computers aren't that hard..." So my uncle left, and went back home

...20 minutes later, the dude calls my uncle, and says the installation is much more difficult then he expected. If he could drop by and help him out...

So my uncle packed his stuff and went to the dude. In meanwhile he tried to think of anything that he could've done wrong... The installation is almost fully automatic....

When he got to the dudes house, the guy was in panic.... "How on earth must I install this program..It's just plain impossible!!!"

My uncle followed the dude to his computer, where he started the installation program.

" Look" the guy said "I type in 'a:' then I say 'install.exe' ... Okay, the program starts up, and then do this and this and I say 'go'... Everything is going great until......... Now! U see? U see? Now It says 'Insert disk 2 and press any key'... But I can't...!"

"Well" My uncle sighs "maybe you want to [b]take out the first disk before trying to stuff in the second...[b] http://www.mindit.nl/vbbforum/images/smilies/vb_frusty.gif

st00pid :D

Oh and OT: does phpbuilder have an IRC channel?? :)

Bryan T

07-03-2003, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by ahundiak
44.

Looks like I got the oldest posted age so far.

44 also.

Many cultures respect their elders' life experience.
Not sure about ours........

scoppc

07-10-2003, 11:43 PM

I am 21 now. Started to learn PHP on 20.

When I was 17, I really wish to be 21. But when I am 21, I wanna be 17... hahaha....

So my uncle packed his stuff and went to the dude. In meanwhile he tried to think of anything that he could've done wrong... The installation is almost fully automatic....

I personally hate to think what I could have done wrong... :(

Serialmouse

07-11-2003, 12:40 AM

I am 24 now, I was 23 when I learned PHP February this Year 2003, turned 24 last March. I have been programming with PHP (socket connections, IMAP, SMTP, SMS, WAP) for 6 months now. I was a JAva and C/C++ programmer since college (about 4-6 years 'til last time I used C/C++ and Java, January 2003 hehehehe).

Also programmed in other languages, but basically just simple codes on them like "Hello World" and simple database connections, simple calculators (kinda school programming assignment stuff, hehehehehe), and simple data handling.

On MS Access and VB, programmed for a bank remittance module as a college practicum.

paulg

07-18-2003, 11:44 AM

I feel ancient now. I'm 42 and been PHPing for about a year.

I started with Assembler and Basic on my trusty Amstrad 6128 and remember the BBC computer? HaHa! Sad!

Since those bygone dayz, several languages plus db3, db4, clipper etc for database programming.

Now, if I could just find me teef...

jebster

07-18-2003, 07:50 PM

I'm 18, turning 19 at the end of september! Started learning PHP.... geez! Its been a year now! :eek: Time flys!

pyro

07-19-2003, 12:01 AM

I'm 19. Been doing PHP for about 6 months, and javascript for about 2 more than that...

marina zara

07-19-2003, 03:18 AM

I am very new on this site...don't know how I came here....I don't know what is PHP...what does it mean....

I want to find people in israel that I lost track of...and the google search engine brought me here...can help?
Thanks

dalecosp

07-19-2003, 11:13 PM

Perhaps you trust Google a bit much?

Only one I know of who has "Israel" in his location is epimeth. He'll probably see your post in the Echo Lounge in a day or so.

Then there was some political discussion in March/April - regarding the US invasion of Iraq --- probably some discussion of Israel in that thread.

I'd keep looking (elsewhere) were I you ....

Sorry :(

marina zara

07-21-2003, 05:08 PM

thanks a lot for kindnessss

maybe i will get a help from someone....
it should be a way, somehow......

thanks a lot
marina

stuartbaggs

07-26-2003, 04:53 AM

I am 14 and I started HTML, Javascript when I was 11. I now have 17 webistes lol.

pete_bisby

07-26-2003, 06:03 AM

Started programming at 16 with BASIC and COBOL, then went onto Access and VB. Went to university 6 years ago and did C/C++, Oracle and Java (amongst other languages).

Been doing PHP/MySQL/HTML/JavaScript/CSS (basically anything that can go on a web page) for the past 3 years, and I'm now 31 ....

.... 15 years is a long time sat on your backside in front of a computer ....

... I need to get out more !!!

Merve

08-03-2003, 12:40 PM

undisclosed

BuzzLY

08-03-2003, 01:06 PM

Um... ok... then why bother responding to this thread?

dalecosp

08-04-2003, 02:00 AM

Good question, BuzzLY --- feel like goin' fishin' yet???

:D

BuzzLY

08-04-2003, 02:33 AM

Only if I can bring along my new motor...

cosminb

08-04-2003, 05:11 AM

23 next month ... :(

dalecosp

08-04-2003, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by BuzzLY
Only if I can bring along my new motor... Sure! *But*, the local lake has a horsepower limit ... is it a trolling motor?

goldbug

08-04-2003, 11:20 AM

Dalecosp:

That got me thinking... don't really know that much about boat engines at all-- How does torque play into the whole performance thing on water? Does it even matter, since there is little resistance to rotation?

Ahhhhh digression.

dalecosp

08-04-2003, 11:41 AM

I don't know that much, either.

Googling for 'trolling motor torque effect performance' gets this (http://sites.state.pa.us/PA_Exec/Fish_Boat/boatcrs/jet/jetboard.htm), but it's about jetboats, so torque is a non issue, right?

OTOH, this article (http://www.brucatosvs.com/3l_1article1.html) discussing engine performance mentions both a torque and a horsepower rating. I would have to assume that the water gives enough resistance to allow the engine to push the boat forward (else it wouldn't move, right?) so most of the same principles would apply, I guess, even though the medium of travel doesn't have the resistance of, say, a concrete roadway...

dartcol

08-04-2003, 12:24 PM

Now there's going OT and then there's really going OT.

Only went fishing once myself when I was 11. Caught a bream ... it was kind of floating in a rather dead fashion in the shallows!

dalecosp

08-04-2003, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by dartcol
Now there's going OT and then there's really going OT. And that's what we do around here ...

You know Japanese, right? Excuse my transliteration:

"Baka de Booshi" == "stupid fat cow?"

Just curious :D

BTW, I'm asking if this is correct ... I am not calling people names ...

tuf-web.co.uk

08-04-2003, 01:21 PM

16 - nearly 1 year with php

dartcol

08-04-2003, 01:31 PM

Not too sure about that one. I would ask the lady of the house for an authentic reading but she's asleep. Early hours here at the time of writing. Baka does indeed mean stupid. De is a particle that means at or in and more. But booshi means hat . So as far as I can tell it means 'stupid in hat' ...

Some alternative choice phrases:
gatagaga itten-ja neeyo == stop your babbling :D :D
do-kechi == you're a tightwad :eek:
henna-yatsu == what a geek :p
kitanai-wane == you're dirty :o

and finally ... for the parting lovers
mou ai****enai-kara, denwa bangou kaeru - I really don't love you anymore, so I'm going to change my phone number :confused:

(all phrase courtesy of Making Out in Japanese by Todd and Erika Geers - yes, my Japanese isn't that great ... )

mata ne :cool:

Elizabeth

08-04-2003, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by dartcol
mou ai****enai-kara, denwa bangou kaeru - I really don't love you anymore, so I'm going to change my phone number OMG I love this one- too bad I can't pronounce it.

-Elizabeth

dalecosp

08-04-2003, 01:38 PM

Never got to make out with a Japanese person ... all my acquaintances were either friends or my exchange students. That would have been bad protocol, for sure.

I may have got the initial consonant sound wrong ... I'll have to see if I can find Keiko's email, I guess ... or, old pal Hajime is in Dept. of Mod. Languages at Baylor, maybe I need to look him up ...

OTOH, I still remember "domo arigato", "Yakusa(?n)" (gangster?) and "a hoe ee nee wah toree" (blue chicken...) so, what more do I need, really... ?? :)

jayant

08-04-2003, 01:45 PM

i will love to have to hear the pronunciations. available anywhere? perhaps i should ask daynah as well. she directed me to a few vietnamese learning sites (had pronunciations also).

daynah if u r reading this, plz give them

BuzzLY

08-04-2003, 01:53 PM

That's great... but how do you say "stop your babbling, you dirty geek!"

Sxooter

08-04-2003, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by goldbug
Dalecosp:

That got me thinking... don't really know that much about boat engines at all-- How does torque play into the whole performance thing on water? Does it even matter, since there is little resistance to rotation?

Ahhhhh digression.

Just think of the water as a locking torque converter. At a certain speed, the prop really is pretty much not slipping much anymore.

And as someone who grew up with 16 ft boats that weighed 300 pounds until you put a 455 olds into them, I can say that torque most definitely counts, especially when you're pulling 6 or 8 skiers at a time for a show.

dalecosp

08-04-2003, 02:00 PM

originally posted by Sxooter
455 oldsSounds like Dad had a deathwish ... quite a powerplant, that ...

Bunkermaster

08-04-2003, 02:40 PM

erm does kaeru mean frog? as in kaeru no ko wa kaeru the old an wise saying...

"Son of a frog is a frog"

Not in a french way

Sxooter

08-04-2003, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by dalecosp
Sounds like Dad had a deathwish ... quite a powerplant, that ...

hehe. In a wooden boat no less. :-)

One of those things where you had to slow down slowly, otherwise water would wash over the transom...

dalecosp

08-04-2003, 08:26 PM

Not to mention a big wake to cross while skiing, eh?

dartcol

08-04-2003, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by Bunkermaster
erm does kaeru mean frog? as in kaeru no ko wa kaeru the old an wise saying...

"Son of a frog is a frog"

Yup. And the sound we mght use to imitate a frog, ie, gerogero actually means I'm feeling a little queasy so could you move out the way to let me throw up.

Originally posted by jayant
i will love to have to hear the pronunciations. available anywhere?
just say them as you see them - but keep the vowel sounds short

Dalescop: Got it, and a strange look this morning from the fine lady of the house ...
Baka de buushi.

dalecosp

08-05-2003, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by dartcol
Dalescop: Got it, and a strange look this morning from the fine lady of the house ...
Baka de buushi. Well, if we've offended, tell her "Gomen Nasai" from me ...

Ah, Keiko ... Keiko was a wonderful foreign exchange student who taught us all sorts of funny things in Japanese. It's sad but true that the silly things were probably the only words we remembered ... :)

As for my friend, Hajime, he seems to have moved from Baylor to Rice ...

Sxooter

08-05-2003, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by dalecosp
Not to mention a big wake to cross while skiing, eh?

Actually, it had a tiny little wake. (Remember, flat bottom, 300 lbs empty.) It was the perfect boat for going over the jump or slalom skiiing. Not so much for trick skiiing though.

Weedpacket

08-05-2003, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by Sxooter
Actually, it had a tiny little wake. (Remember, flat bottom, 300 lbs empty.) The only getting wet was the prop .... wheeeeee

dalecosp

08-05-2003, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by Weedpacket
The only getting wet was the prop .... wheeeeee Thanks ... "mental video" says a lot ...

Chaotic Reality

08-20-2003, 08:45 AM

I'm 20 and just now getting into PHP. I've read about 300 pages of my book but between full time school and work it's hard to find time to motivate myself to read, so I think I'm going to start all over again. :)

J.

dalecosp

08-20-2003, 10:53 AM

Heh, if you've read *300* pages, that's more than a lot of newbs 'round here...

Bookmark www.php.net, and get crackin'!!

drawmack

08-20-2003, 01:58 PM

I'm 28 and been using php for about 2 years. My first language was Basic in 87. I remember the technologies that liz was speaking about pages ago and I even remember leg warmers

stolzyboy

08-20-2003, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by dalecosp
Heh, if you've read *300* pages, that's more than a lot of newbs 'round here...

Bookmark www.php.net, and get crackin'!!

<n00b talking>
"can't bookmark what you gave me, link doesn't work"
</n00b talking>

:D

drawmack

08-20-2003, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by stolzyboy
<n00b talking>
"can't bookmark what you gave me, link doesn't work"
</n00b talking>

:D

http://www.php.net

and also bookmark

http://www.w3c.org

dalecosp

08-20-2003, 03:02 PM

<?php
$lastpost=str_replace(",", "", $lastpost);
?>Man, I hate this little desk...at least I was trying to use punctuation... Javascript ... humph!

BuzzLY

08-20-2003, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by drawmack
I remember the technologies that liz was speaking about pages ago and I even remember leg warmers /me glances nervously about and steps FAR away from drawmack...

Elizabeth

08-20-2003, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by drawmack
I'm 28 and been using php for about 2 years. My first language was Basic in 87. I remember the technologies that liz was speaking about pages ago and I even remember leg warmers Go zippers, parachute pants, "choose life" t-shirts and "where's the beef?" buttons! :D

-Elizabeth

Elizabeth

08-20-2003, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by BuzzLY
/me glances nervously about and steps FAR away from drawmack... Yeah right Buzz like you didn't have a big-ass poster of AC/DC on your walls and had your hair feathered back on the sides.. WhatEVER

SLAYeeK

08-20-2003, 04:26 PM

I am 18

PHP from 2001.

Before PHP i learned Perl (From 1998).

BuzzLY

08-20-2003, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by Elizabeth
Yeah right Buzz like you didn't have a big-ass poster of AC/DC on your walls and had your hair feathered back on the sides.. WhatEVER

Like, oh my god, I can't believe you like, ragged on me like that. Funny thing is, all my posters were those I got from World magazine -- mostly animals. I was a nerd in the 80's. Now that I'm grown up, I'm a geek, and proud of it! :)

Besides, I was referring to his calling you "Liz." But since you didn't react, I guess it's ok to call you that now? :D

dalecosp

08-20-2003, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by Elizabeth
Go zippers, parachute pants, "choose life" t-shirts and "where's the beef?" buttons! :D

-Elizabeth Heh. I feel so at home now with teenagers ... bushy hair on top, long dark sideburns ... I'm lonesome* to hear the Little River Band* on the stereo again (well, not really, maybe, but ...)

I asked a young girl (my stylist) the other day about this. She thought it was totally kewl with her. But she didn't know what parachute pants were, and she totally despised the mullet.

Fashion is just a big merry-go-round. I think maybe Piersk has the right idea ... but I need to lose several pounds before going au naturale...

*hmm, fancy both those terms in the same sentence ...

drawmack

08-20-2003, 09:12 PM

I had a mullet that went all the way to my waiste with the top and sides feathered and jeans so tight I had to pull the zipper up with pliers.

You know the other day I saw some kinds dressed in madonna-esqe clothes circa 1984 and I hid under the bed shaking for hours.

All I could think was like gag me with a spoon.

Then I realized that I should not worry and just be happy as I looked down and realized I was back in black.

I felt like such a virgin again.

It was truely and utterly horrible. Then a flock of seagulls pooped on my head. I know that this is good luck, but too bad that I am a man without a hat.

After all of this I got stopped by the police in front of the men at work cause I can't drive 55.

argh the 80s - yeah I was there.

Elizabeth

08-21-2003, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by BuzzLY
Besides, I was referring to his calling you "Liz." But since you didn't react, I guess it's ok to call you that now? :D I guess I've like, mellowed out man. Plus I like to cut the n00bs some slack.

-Elizabeth

BuzzLY

08-21-2003, 10:35 AM

Hehe... nice drawmack. I loved the 80's. Anyone watch the VH1 show "I love the 80's?" They now have come out with "I love the 70's" but for me they don't hold as much interest for me. I was only 12 in 1979, so the real decade for me was the 80's.

Of course, the end of the 70's gave us Disco, and I remember dancing around in class to the music of The BeeGees. <shudder> God, I hated disco!

dalecosp

08-21-2003, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by Elizabeth
I guess I've like, mellowed out man. Plus I like to cut the n00bs some slack.

-Elizabeth Besides, swingin' the LART is a physically daunting task, and she needs to behave herself for a while... ;)

Avimander

08-21-2003, 12:25 PM

One person the same age as I, tis a shame...

13 ;)

I've been good with computers since I was 10, but didn't learn HTML/Javascript till late last year. I wanted to learn PHP so I could program an RPG, but the PHP books cost $50+...and the library has alll their books out till October, so I came here >>

drawmack

08-21-2003, 12:34 PM

hey there don't take it from us take it from the manual
http://www.php.net/manual

Avimander

08-21-2003, 02:32 PM

I would if I could. I have the downloadable 6 megabyte one-file file on my computer. That still didn't help me. I need example coding too, but more than that. It didn't help. Stupid sessions arent working. :(

stolzyboy

08-21-2003, 03:38 PM

post some code in one of the help forums to get help

Weedpacket

08-21-2003, 05:52 PM

:sniff: I want my mullet ba-a-aaack!

piersk

08-21-2003, 06:00 PM

You got any photos of u with said mullet?

stolzyboy

08-21-2003, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by piersk
You got any photos of u with said mullet?

probably wasn't a camera with large enough zoom to get the full mullet in there, some people's mullets got rather large :D

Elizabeth

08-21-2003, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by BuzzLY
Hehe... nice drawmack. I loved the 80's. Anyone watch the VH1 show "I love the 80's?" They now have come out with "I love the 70's" but for me they don't hold as much interest for me. I was only 12 in 1979, so the real decade for me was the 80's.Yep- love those; watched it last night in fact. I had totally forgotten about that horrible show "Land of the Lost" that looks like it was filmed "in the producer's backyard". Plus the comments are hee-larious on that show. Oh yes, they also mentioned the "pretty sneaky, sis" commercial (http://www.phpbuilder.com/board/showthread.php?s=&postid=10260560&highlight=pretty+sneaky+sis#post10260560). I guess I'm not the only nutcase who remembered it.

-Elizabeth

stolzyboy

08-21-2003, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by Elizabeth
"Land of the Lost"

-Elizabeth

t'was trying to remember what the name of that great show was the other day when i ran across a rerun of "V"

Elizabeth

08-21-2003, 06:40 PM

Back on the mullet topic, you guys should check out www.mulletmadness.com. Quite humorous.

-Elizabeth

Elizabeth

08-21-2003, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by stolzyboy
t'was trying to remember what the name of that great show was the other day when i ran across a rerun of "V" 'Member that pseudo caveman-boy-thing that was on there? HORRIBLE. LOL!

-Elizabeth

stolzyboy

08-21-2003, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by Elizabeth
Back on the mullet topic, you guys should check out www.mulletmadness.com. Quite humorous.

-Elizabeth

www.mulletsgalore.com

Roger Ramjet

07-23-2004, 12:59 PM

51 years young, so I guess that makes me the 'Grand Old Man' here.

Had my first job in a computer dept back in 1972 - then left for the hippy trail. Serious geek since 1975 - IBM mainframes that filled rooms (heck, even the printer controllers were the size of a Transit van, tape drives the size of a wardrobe). This was before every man and his dog thought they were programmers. Then the WWW came along and everyone found out how much money we made, and how much fun we had as well.

"Love the 80's" ?? Sorry, I despise them. Bad politics (Thatcher/Reagan), bad music (New Romantics!! sic), bad clothes (but not as bad as the 70s), and lousy dope.

PHP in 2001, but back to 'hard-core' computing (WAN/LAN and backend databases) once the .com bubble burst. Now I'm developing web tools for on-line tracking of work for our clients, and PHP is still the tool of choice. Even if it were not the best server scripting language around, the community spirit and support that comes with it would tip the balance for me.

Glad to be back in the UNIX world is all I can say: I've been stuck in the MickeySoft wonderland (W2K) for the last 3 years.

Elizabeth

07-23-2004, 04:16 PM

Wow, Roger, nice bump!

Roger Ramjet

07-25-2004, 12:23 PM

Sorry Elizabeth, don't know what a bump is. I'm sure it's not something to be proud though. You'll just have to cut this grumpy old man some slack please. :D

dalecosp

07-25-2004, 07:17 PM

Hi, Roger ...

In this context, "bump" refers to the fact that you resurrected what seemed to be a dead thread (previous post was nearly 11 months old).

Now, seeing as this is about "how old are you", and your post was extremely relevant, I'm sure we'll *all* cut you some slack.

Now, if it had been me, or Weedpacket, or Buzzly, or Piersk, or .... { $otherpervert } who'd said that, you might have had more cause to wonder about the meaning.

But Elizabeth is harmless, unless you're really clueless*, in which case the pink fuzzy LART with te barb-wire spikes can really make a mess of ya in a hurry :D

(*or possibly if you're too, um, "forward" to her ... ;) )

piersk

07-26-2004, 05:49 AM

Originally posted by dalecosp
Now, if it had been me, or Weedpacket, or Buzzly, or Piersk, or .... { $otherpervert } who'd said that, you might have had more cause to wonder about the meaning.

Hmpf.... How come you included me but not Bunkermaster? :glare:

dalecosp

07-26-2004, 01:15 PM

I only included perverts I respect a good deal. I like bunker, and don't really *dis*respect him, but I've not spoken 2 him in a long time ... I did note he was back playing word assoc the other day, though....

He can, of course, be included in the $otherperverts array.... :D

piersk

07-27-2004, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by dalecosp
He can, of course, be included in the $otherperverts array.... :D

Very true. Tis nice to know you don't think of me as a "run of the mill" pervert :D

dartcol

07-27-2004, 01:00 PM

Perverts running off the mill? Where? Get back to that grindstone and into bondage once more.

By the way, last time I was 31, now I'm 32. I sense a yearly return here ...

uri92

07-28-2004, 05:44 AM

I'm 12 and im learning advanced PHP

XeRoZeN

07-28-2004, 01:41 PM

Oh I'm 14 too :D but at least I ain't a immature teenager. I decided to learned PHP when I was 12 but then I forgot most of it when I formatted my computer. When I was learning PHP I decided to go and learn about 3D Modeling =]

adavis

07-28-2004, 04:44 PM

Well, I thought I was going to be the oldest, but on the next to last page I saw a man who's 51. I'm 48, so that makes me to oldest lady to post. I started in the world of computers in 1973, learning COBOL in high school. Learned Fortran and Pascal in college, programmed a while in COBOL. Quit working to do some real work, i.e. raise two great boys, now 15 and 20. I learned HTML while I was still at home with them by doing webpages for our homeschool group, swim team, and later, their private school. I used the school website to learn PHP. I started that about 2.5 years ago. I've been back in the workforce for about 3.75 years now. My current job, I started with HTML, moved on to Perl, and now, or the past 2 years, am the resident PHP programmer.

PHPZEN

07-29-2004, 02:47 PM

21 and still learning.
I am a firm believer that learning never stops. (A few words of wisdom from someone who ...ahhh forget it)

planetsim

07-29-2004, 07:59 PM

I started learning PHP at about 14-15 just before i registered here :) so from that im 17 :D 17 is such a cruddy age your not old enough to drink legally ;) but you can drive :D

DominicIGO

07-29-2004, 11:05 PM

I'm 16 and I started learning PHP a month or two ago.

dalecosp

07-30-2004, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by planetsim
I started learning PHP at about 14-15 just before i registered here :) so from that im 17 :D 17 is such a cruddy age your not old enough to drink legally ;) but you can drive :D Foo! Seventeen was *the* age. After that, *I* had to pay for everything, I had to get a job, I got fat .... now my joints creak and pop, I forget what the h*** I'm doing half the time, and the girls no longer look like they did when I was 17, either ... (Well, maybe one or two are still *close*)

Best enjoy it while it lasts.... :D

piersk

07-30-2004, 05:06 AM

For me, 22 was (and still is) the best age to be. I've had an amazing year, was on placement for most of it, met some great people and have been having the time of my life... :D

planetsim

07-30-2004, 05:23 AM

Originally posted by dalecosp
Foo! Seventeen was *the* age. After that, *I* had to pay for everything, I had to get a job, I got fat .... now my joints creak and pop, I forget what the h*** I'm doing half the time, and the girls no longer look like they did when I was 17, either ... (Well, maybe one or two are still *close*)

Best enjoy it while it lasts.... :D

Hmm maybe when im older ill understand more about being young and liking it while it lasts :(

Good point about the girls

/me gets off ass and goes outside

piersk

07-30-2004, 05:25 AM

Originally posted by dalecosp
the girls no longer look like they did when I was 17, either ...

No, the 17 year old girls still look the same, but you're older and uglier so they don't look at you in the same way :p

dalecosp

07-30-2004, 05:30 AM

LOL! I was referring to the *same* girls; I.E., the ones in the picture I just hung on the wall of my recent 20th class reunion (HS). Don't know what happened to us ... look like a bunch of old people or somethin' .... ;)

planetsim

07-30-2004, 05:32 AM

20yr reunion :eek:

/me runs away in horror

piersk

07-30-2004, 05:41 AM

Originally posted by dalecosp
my recent 20th class reunion (HS).

Geez, that would make you...

/me counts in head...

REALLY OLD!! :D

Elizabeth

07-30-2004, 09:12 AM

You guys better watch it- that will be you before you know it. ;)

fire_cracker

07-30-2004, 08:28 PM

Wow...I never realized that we had such a wide range of ages amoung this group!

I'm 20, live in Nebraksa (Yes we do have the internet out here :P) I've been coding for about 3 years now, and I still think that I'm a noob.

And age doesn't really matter to those of you who said they couldn't find jobs based on their age. I work at a telemarketing company, as a web designer/application designer, and if I were 5 years older, or had a degree, this guy would have never hired me.

Sure you don't get paid what the more exp. ppl do, but it looks great on a resume!

gregmiller

07-31-2004, 01:28 AM

23 and greying!
Have been playing around with PHP since 5 months.

dalecosp

07-31-2004, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by gregmiller
23 and greying!
Have been playing around with PHP since 5 months. But they didn't have PHP in 1981!!?? :confused:

:D

Oh, and fire_cracker: if you're 25, and someone won't hire you because you're not 20, then "age doesn't matter" isn't really true: that's reverse age discrimination, I guess. :eek:

And, yeah, they have the Internet in Nebraska; but now for the real question: can you get a high speed link that doesn't cost a fortune? (I'm sure it depends on where you are in NE). Every town around me has at least on option for HS, but out here 'on the farm' it's dialup or nada.... :rolleyes:

adavis

08-01-2004, 08:29 AM

I hope someone hires this old lady at 48 because the company I was working for just lost the contract I was on and I'm getting pretty sick of the new contractor. Even to the point of taking a 50% cut in pay to teach high school kids c++, java, and html. But hey, I'd get 2 whole months off in the summer a week in October and March, and 3 weeks at Christmas.

Yikes, I'd better learn c++ and java.

;) Love y'all

furtivefelon

08-01-2004, 02:32 PM

learnt it when i was 14, i'm now 16.. so 2 years of hard core labour (well.. not really, learning on and off.. now i'm only starting my first project..)

Roger Ramjet

08-06-2004, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by fire_cracker
and if I were 5 years older, or had a degree, this guy would have never hired me.

Sure you don't get paid what the more exp. ppl do, but it looks great on a resume!

Which is what everyone says. Just think, when you are more 'experienced', or have a family and need a decent wage, some other bright young thing who needs a resume will be undercutting you.

Fortunately, the dot com revolution has died it's death. More and more employers are realising that it is not 'a young persons industry'. Actually what they really need is people with a solid background in their particular industry (domain knowledge), and the kind of skills that only comes with age and years in the workplace.

adavis

08-06-2004, 11:05 AM

the kind of skills that only comes with age and years in the workplace

ditto from the oldest lady on the forum :)

fire_cracker

08-06-2004, 06:28 PM

I don't feel that some day some "bright young mind" will take the job that I need to support my family. For every one college kid that works on a technical staff, there is usually 2 or 3 seniors working above him/her. It is the way that the industry should work. You need experience to get a job, and you need a job to get experience. No matter how many degrees, or certifications you hold, nothing compares to the real life work you will be doing in the field, and most employers know this, and will be expecting you to be prepaired.

By hodling a less important possition while getting those degrees and certifications, you are gaining an edge on some of the other people who will some day be competing for that higher paying, higher responsobility job. I am not closing the door on a weathered programmer, I am simply opening doors myself. You have to climb the ladder one rung at a time.

So long as there are jobs for college kids, there will be jobs for the seasoned tech.

coffeehead

08-07-2004, 12:24 PM

I'm 16 and have just started PHP, though I've been doing web stuff for about 4 years. (Gosh.... What type of teenage girl spends her summer vacation on computer boards? :rolleyes: )

dalecosp

08-07-2004, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by coffeehead
I'm 16 and have just started PHP, though I've been doing web stuff for about 4 years. (Gosh.... What type of teenage girl spends her summer vacation on computer boards? :rolleyes: ) "Umm, I'll take 'geekgirl' for eight hundred, Alex..." :D

Welcome to PHPBuilder, BTW. Don't get too addicted ... do like planetsim and get up and enjoy being young ;)

:D

Roger Ramjet

08-07-2004, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by fire_cracker
I am not closing the door on a weathered programmer, I am simply opening doors myself. You have to climb the ladder one rung at a time.

So long as there are jobs for college kids, there will be jobs for the seasoned tech.

"And you have to get your foot in the door". I quite agree.

It's always been the same.

I was not being a GOM maoning about things. I was tendering a word of caution. That the old exploit the young: it was ever that way.

I've worked in places where the junior ranks were a revolving door. Didn't affect me, but I could not believe the way they treated these young people. Suck them in while they are cheap; and spit them out before they qualify for a decent contract. There's a whole hatch of graduates ever summer.

Truth is: You are only welcome while they need you.

The strategy: Make them need you more than you need them.

furtivefelon

08-07-2004, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by coffeehead
I'm 16 and have just started PHP, though I've been doing web stuff for about 4 years. (Gosh.... What type of teenage girl spends her summer vacation on computer boards? :rolleyes: )

i know loads of teenage girl spends her summer vacation on computer boards ;)

Sxooter

08-07-2004, 06:36 PM

planetsim

08-07-2004, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by dalecosp
"Umm, I'll take 'geekgirl' for eight hundred, Alex..." :D

Welcome to PHPBuilder, BTW. Don't get too addicted ... do like planetsim and get up and enjoy being young ;)

:D

Being addicted and having a little bit of a life isnt so bad :p

leatherback

06-19-2008, 08:31 AM

Oops.. Did I just bump a 4 year old thread? Not my fault!! Somebody linked to it in the echo lounge FAQ. :evilgrin:

I can't believe I did not post in this thread!

Anyway.. My join date is I think 2 weeks after my PhP initiation. Been active on the web since 1995, originally running a warez network, then moving in even more honourable activities. My first site online in 1999 I think (Wanne see it: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://student.wau.nl/~jellef).

Now I am working fulltime as a scientist in a dodgy university (http://www.zoo.ox.ac.uk) on satellite information processing (http://www.oxfordtracking.com) & animal migration.

You feel like you still don't know enough? Trawl the web, and thee shall find

dalecosp

06-20-2008, 07:54 PM

Oops.. Did I just bump a 4 year old thread? Not my fault!! Somebody linked to it in the echo lounge FAQ. :evilgrin:

I can't believe I did not post in this thread!Hee hee! That makes us all four years older than when we originally posted then, I guess?

leatherback

06-20-2008, 08:14 PM

:D Hm. I think I have to write a function for that..

Hm.. age.. Didn't even put that in hehe.. 76-er here. YOU do the math :D

NogDog

06-20-2008, 08:34 PM

...Hm.. age.. Didn't even put that in hehe.. 76-er here. YOU do the math :D
Eh, another young whipper-snapper.

/* NogDog slowly gets up and heads to the kitchen with the aid of his walker... */

leatherback

06-20-2008, 08:39 PM

Hehe, just ordered my stroller last week. Did you know you can now get thm with a little bag in front for groceries :D lol

bpat1434

06-21-2008, 12:42 AM

Leatherback, you're a fan of the NBA? Shame on you!! :p ;)

I'm currently 24 ... and you guys put forth too much effort with walking. Why not just get the motorized wheel-chair / Segway. If you can stand with a walker, you should be able to handle a segway... if not, then more work for me ;)

leatherback

06-21-2008, 06:34 AM

Actualy.. We do not waste time with walking anymore, and just sit behind the computer. Our overly inflated hourly rates competing with your spring energetic speed :D

Oh.. ehm.. Actually.. Nope, gave up professional coding after my dphil; Had to do too much daytime coding already :D

leetkrew

06-29-2008, 10:03 AM

16... high school days... not in school...
and my college profs were amazed because i used PHP instead of common languages such as CGI PERL/C++ on my thesis.

nrg_alpha

06-29-2008, 04:44 PM

I am 35 (start learning PHP a year ago).. so yes, I know.. I know.. 'late bloomer'.. :glare:

But better late then never, eh? :D
So glad I started learning PHP though.. I couln't go back to just plain old static html anymore.. the more I learn PHP, the more I want to learn. The language is so fast yet robust (unlike me lol).

Cheers,

NRG

bpat1434

06-29-2008, 04:59 PM

"late bloomer" ? More like "old fart" :p

Apparently you can teach an old dog new tricks ;)

Okay okay... no more picking on the "elders"

nrg_alpha

06-29-2008, 05:18 PM

"late bloomer" ? More like "old fart" :p

Apparently you can teach an old dog new tricks ;)

Okay okay... no more picking on the "elders"

lol ouch!
Ok.. here's a tid-bit on info from this 'elder'..

While time is on your side now.. it won't be long before it isn't. Time is one of those tricky illusions that seems to have a knack of 'sneeking' up on you. I was 20-something once.. and then, BAM! I'm in my mid-thirties... it won't be long before I know it, and BAM! Someone change my diapers!

So enjoy the ride while it lasts.. because before you know it.. BAM! :quiet:

Cheers,

NRG

NogDog

06-29-2008, 06:58 PM

Elder? Elder?! You presumptuous youngster.

/* Nogdog totters over to his rocker to sit a spell while grumbling about "kids these days." */

bpat1434

06-29-2008, 09:05 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :)

Good to see you took that in good spirits!

Oh, an far too often from my other job do I know when it will hit me that I've become an old fart. Just as long as my yet-to-be-born children don't put me in a god-forsaken nursing home, I'll be okay.

dalecosp

06-30-2008, 05:44 PM

Lol, I wonder what Mick "Time is on my side" Jagger is thinking these days, as, at least in the U.S., he's quite old enough for gov't assistance.

And nrg, no biggie starting PHP at 35. That's about when I learned. Haven't made a mint with it, but paid a few bills. Looking for another line of work, but can't imagine a scenario where the ability to script/program with PHP won't be of any use at all, as long as I've got root's passphrase ;-)

Oh, and last week I removed all facial hair and "BAM!" ;) Now everyone thinks I'm 29 again.... :D

nrg_alpha

06-30-2008, 05:52 PM

Lol, I wonder what Mick "Time is on my side" Jagger is thinking these days, as, at least in the U.S., he's quite old enough for gov't assistance.

But does he need gov't assistance, though? :D

And nrg, no biggie starting PHP at 35. That's about when I learned. Haven't made a mint with it, but paid a few bills. Looking for another line of work, but can't imagine a scenario where the ability to script/program with PHP won't be of any use at all, as long as I've got root's passphrase ;-)

Oh, and last week I removed all facial hair and "BAM!" ;) Now everyone thinks I'm 29 again.... :D

LOL There you have it.. the fountain of youth.. in the form of hair removal! :)
Perhaps I should consider this as well.. but go one step further.. remove ALL hair EVERYWHERE.. BAM! Oversized [read - ill proportioned] baby at a keyboard :)

Cheers,

NRG

bpat1434

06-30-2008, 06:15 PM

Heh... If i were to shave, I'd go from my meager 24-ish look to being about 12 :( My g/f hates it. So it's rare I actually shave.

but go one step further.. remove ALL hair EVERYWHERE.. BAM! Oversized [read - ill proportioned] baby at a keyboard
Well, for some people it's ginormous!! ;) Instant pick-me-up ;) A Cappella song about the "pick-me-up" ;) (http://www.bpatterson.net/music/Enormous%20Penis.mp3)

Weedpacket

06-30-2008, 10:00 PM

But does he need gov't assistance, though? Dunno, but Roger Daltrey has a bus pass.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/06/29/scistubble129.xml

nrg_alpha

06-30-2008, 10:13 PM

Dunno, but Roger Daltrey has a bus pass.
Can't say I blame him, with the prices of gas and all these days...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/06/29/scistubble129.xml

Thanks for the article, weedpacket.. I was just on my way to the bathroom with my shaver and clippers... but I think you talked me out of it.. I'm going to remain at the keyboard and just keep my mind deep in PHP :o

Cheers,

NRG