stuartc1
09-17-2002, 07:03 AM
What do you think is important when building a website or and intranet ?? see the poll above.
Click to See Complete Forum and Search --> : Functionality 'v' Design??
piersk
09-17-2002, 07:10 AM
What are we talking about here?
stuartc1
09-17-2002, 07:51 AM
Its a poll, What do you think is important when building a website or and intranet ??
piersk
09-17-2002, 08:32 AM
Ah, I see. Wasnt sure what yore were on about...
Bunkermaster
09-19-2002, 02:50 PM
user freindly functionality is everything. If there is no functionality what's the use of building software? If it looks ugly noone will use it what'd be the use of that great software?
PS : Lotsa peeps still use character based MVS (or other Mainframe) applications, God help them.
PS : Lotsa peeps still use character based MVS (or other Mainframe) applications, God help them.
stuartc1
09-20-2002, 06:08 AM
indeed.
I believe working functionality is 100% the most important, but its also pretty important to make apps user friendly with a neat interface.
Its just that lots of scripts you get on the internet, and even some software development websites are shockingly ugly (with green backgrounds and yellow text... and the like). It makes you wonder why these folks bother, all that hard work to make quality software and it looks bloody rubbish.
It can work the opposite way also, you get sites full of fancy Flash and high quality design, but thing like simple forms crash... ha, ha. youve gotta laugh.
I believe working functionality is 100% the most important, but its also pretty important to make apps user friendly with a neat interface.
Its just that lots of scripts you get on the internet, and even some software development websites are shockingly ugly (with green backgrounds and yellow text... and the like). It makes you wonder why these folks bother, all that hard work to make quality software and it looks bloody rubbish.
It can work the opposite way also, you get sites full of fancy Flash and high quality design, but thing like simple forms crash... ha, ha. youve gotta laugh.
bastien
09-26-2002, 12:57 PM
if it doesn't work, you don't get paid...remember too that users are the lowest common demoninator (some i know need instrunction to breath;) ) ya gotta make it idiot proof or at least as idiot proof as possible
programming law #1
60-70 % of the code show be designed to validate user input and protect them when they do sometihing stupid..
the rest is the code that actually does the job
programming law #1
60-70 % of the code show be designed to validate user input and protect them when they do sometihing stupid..
the rest is the code that actually does the job
the_Igel
09-27-2002, 11:10 AM
Yeah.
Design is design: it's not about bells & whistles, it's about usability.
A program should a) work, b) work stable, and c) be usable. No more, no less.
And yes, "work stable" means "is idiot-proof".
Design is design: it's not about bells & whistles, it's about usability.
A program should a) work, b) work stable, and c) be usable. No more, no less.
And yes, "work stable" means "is idiot-proof".
brøken
09-27-2002, 03:42 PM
graphics suck :) i like fast idiot-proof pages. then again, css is my new lover.
Wave
09-27-2002, 06:08 PM
peoples, dont forget that there are two main categories of web sites (we talking about web development, isn't it?)
1. information
2. presentation
so it's depend's on what you site aimed to - shock users with whistles and bells (reasonable bells in right places) or give em alot of information with minimal amount of graphics.
and even if your site is more information then presentative, it's a good idea to develop an appropriate graphic design too. it's a good pleasure for peoples. definitely it is.
1. information
2. presentation
so it's depend's on what you site aimed to - shock users with whistles and bells (reasonable bells in right places) or give em alot of information with minimal amount of graphics.
and even if your site is more information then presentative, it's a good idea to develop an appropriate graphic design too. it's a good pleasure for peoples. definitely it is.
Bunkermaster
09-27-2002, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by Wave
and even if your site is more information then presentative, it's a good idea to develop an appropriate graphic design too. it's a good pleasure for peoples. definitely it is.
if you site looks like crap people won't go there period (the only exception would be google though :P)
and even if your site is more information then presentative, it's a good idea to develop an appropriate graphic design too. it's a good pleasure for peoples. definitely it is.
if you site looks like crap people won't go there period (the only exception would be google though :P)
Wave
09-27-2002, 08:33 PM
you're right.
so it's the fact - let's make functional and good looking sites. amen.
the poll is closed. ;)
so it's the fact - let's make functional and good looking sites. amen.
the poll is closed. ;)
the_Igel
09-30-2002, 02:29 AM
Good look doesn't mean bells & whistles. As for me, Google is one of the best-looking sites ever :)
Bunkermaster
09-30-2002, 06:33 AM
the tab system of google is not clear enough for non experienced users to use (my father tried Google once and gave up, he went back smiling to Yahoo and thought his son was a barbarian who knew nothing about the web :D)
I especially like the part they added recently :
News-New!
but TBH I don't use google portal anymore, I installed the googlebar and that's my search engine (I see results pages only now). Great thing about the google bar is that you can access the google cached pages (meaning that if you changed something and google has it in search cache it's still accessible :D)
I especially like the part they added recently :
News-New!
but TBH I don't use google portal anymore, I installed the googlebar and that's my search engine (I see results pages only now). Great thing about the google bar is that you can access the google cached pages (meaning that if you changed something and google has it in search cache it's still accessible :D)
kaumilpatel
10-08-2002, 02:05 PM
When you have created something that does both; functionality and design... you have created a big bad monster :)
jeremuck
10-15-2002, 05:57 PM
I'm not sure about that 60 - 70%... I think that's pretty modest.
I thought it was the 20-80 rule: 20% of the code operates 80% of the time.
Assuming most of the time, the user knows to do the right thing (especially after factoring in time and experience), then 80% of the code is for validation.
It also probably means that bells and whistles hardly ever get used.
I thought it was the 20-80 rule: 20% of the code operates 80% of the time.
Assuming most of the time, the user knows to do the right thing (especially after factoring in time and experience), then 80% of the code is for validation.
It also probably means that bells and whistles hardly ever get used.
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