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Gary King
07-03-2005, 03:28 PM
What operating system do you code on? I suppose that most of you are Windows users?

Any OS X users here, like me? I'm sure there are a few Linux guys here as well :)
Drakla
07-03-2005, 04:08 PM
You mean development server yeah? As I develop on Windows, then it all goes up to the Unix server in the sky for the lovely people of internet to look at.
Gary King
07-03-2005, 04:31 PM
Yep, 'development server' if that's what you call it ;) The one that you create the code on, anyways. I suspect that the actual production system is most likely Linux or UNIX based, anyways. Probably about 90% for PHP sites.
thorpe
07-03-2005, 06:40 PM
everything i do is on linux. i have two boxes running gentoo and another (i dont use) running fedora core. thinking about getting rid of fedora and having a play with freeBSD when i get the time.
planetsim
07-03-2005, 08:46 PM
Id like to say I do everything on Linux, however college still requires me to develop on Windows unless I ***** enough about it.
Weedpacket
07-03-2005, 09:27 PM
I'm presuming that using Windows 2000 as a terminal emulator into the Linux box counts as "coding on Linux".
Gary King
07-03-2005, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by planetsim
Id like to say I do everything on Linux, however college still requires me to develop on Windows unless I ***** enough about it. College? Windows? Don't tell me you're taking a computer science course.
MikeSnead
07-03-2005, 11:20 PM
Well I code and work on a Windows Machine (Zend and its wonderful FTP support), but my Web and Database servers are both running Fedora Core 3.

If all goes to plan in a bout 6 months I'll be moving over to a Dual G5 machine for my coding/personal computing... but still keep the Fedora Boxes for Web/Database hosting.
Gary King
07-03-2005, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by MikeSnead
Well I code and work on a Windows Machine (Zend and its wonderful FTP support), but my Web and Database servers are both running Fedora Core 3.

If all goes to plan in a bout 6 months I'll be moving over to a Dual G5 machine for my coding/personal computing... but still keep the Fedora Boxes for Web/Database hosting.

What do you need a dual G5 for? Coding? What else do you need that workhorse for? ;)
planetsim
07-03-2005, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by Gary W
College? Windows? Don't tell me you're taking a computer science course.

Would I need to send a medical bill if a I said yes?
MikeSnead
07-03-2005, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by Gary W
What do you need a dual G5 for? Coding? What else do you need that workhorse for? ;)

For my other happy hobby... Photoshop/Digital Photography. And OSX is just more fun to play with. hehe :)
Gary King
07-04-2005, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by planetsim
Would I need to send a medical bill if a I said yes? Of course ;)
Jason Batten
07-04-2005, 03:01 AM
Windows.

There are other operating systems *turns head, flaps hand* get outta ere.

:evilgrin:
planetsim
07-04-2005, 05:06 AM
Originally posted by Gary W
Of course ;)
:eek: Im glad to say no, but I was thinking about doing it for Uni.
hkucsis
07-05-2005, 04:36 AM
Windows machines for development.

*nix machines for production.
vaaaska
07-05-2005, 06:25 AM
Mac. OSX. Seriously contemplating setting up a Linux machine.

Of course, I really do try to write as much as possible in a notebook before I sit down to the computer or I just end up writing disorganized garbage. This goes for most things - not just writing scripts.

So, my primary 'OS' is generally a notebook with graph paper and a green, blue or pink ink pen.

http://www.muji.co.uk/catalogue/gallery.asp?Sec=6&Sub=43&PID=761
planetsim
07-05-2005, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by vaaaska
Mac. OSX. Seriously contemplating setting up a Linux machine.

Of course, I really do try to write as much as possible in a notebook before I sit down to the computer or I just end up writing disorganized garbage. This goes for most things - not just writing scripts.

So, my primary 'OS' is generally a notebook with graph paper and a green, blue or pink ink pen.

http://www.muji.co.uk/catalogue/gallery.asp?Sec=6&Sub=43&PID=761

You seriously must get writers cramp, id be quite surprised if you didnt.

Ive actually been contemplating using Mac OSX looks pretty nice actually one of them Mac Mini's would look pretty sexy on my desk.
pohopo
07-05-2005, 01:32 PM
For development windows because I can develop in all the languages I need in one server. For production server it depends on the application being built.
Sxooter
07-11-2005, 03:50 PM
For development windows because I can develop in all the languages I need in one server. For production server it depends on the application being built.

Which languages do you use that aren't available for Linux or BSD?
Sgarissta
07-11-2005, 05:45 PM
Which languages do you use that aren't available for Linux or BSD?
Not that I use them by choice, but attempting to do any serious .NET development (either C# or VB) on anything other than Windows, isn't really worth messing with. I've used mono, and am continually impressed with the progress they make, but there are just too many holes in the libraries to consider it for any decent amount of work.
Sxooter
07-11-2005, 06:15 PM
Yeah, those were the languages I'd figured. Just wanted to make sure. I haven't developed on Windows in many a year now. IF a language isn't cross platform I generally don't mess with it. Just simple economics, I don't want to spend time learning to code in a language that only works on one OS is all.

As you guys might guess, I DO develop on linux, but all flavors of unix are fine by me.
pohopo
07-11-2005, 07:09 PM
IF a language isn't cross platform I generally don't mess with it. Just simple economics, I don't want to spend time learning to code in a language that only works on one OS is all.It was because of simple economics that I learned dot net as many companies ask that you know this and it seems to be growing, especially where I am at (west coast). Plus, I simply enjoy learning new languages and dot net was one I have to say is pretty nice. A huge leap ahead of ASP.
Sxooter
07-11-2005, 07:21 PM
Yeah, I got so frustrated, but I think it was because I had to do so much more than just code windows, I had to setup the boxes and such. The administration of a farm of windows boxes is quite possibly one of the most frustrating things I've ever done. The development side of .net wasn't bad. But, the gods were looking out for me, and right after my last shop decided to switch wholesale to .net / c# I was laid off and landed a job in a java/linux/pgsql/oracle/php shop.

I do understand the economics of developing for whatever is out there. I just try really hard to not do windows, as it's so frustrating from a sys admin / dba / point of view, which is where I usually sit.
Jason Batten
07-12-2005, 08:03 AM
Windows 21 75.00%
Mac OS X 5 17.86%
Linux 13 46.43%
Other 0 0%

Rrrright... that percentage don't work.
Sxooter
07-12-2005, 11:19 AM
Windows 21 75.00%
Mac OS X 5 17.86%
Linux 13 46.43%
Other 0 0%

Rrrright... that percentage don't work.

Dear lord, I hope you weren't on your high school debate team, cause if you were, you'd have lost a lot of arguments.

There are so many holes in your over simplified argument I don't have a shovel large enough to fill them in.

1: A poll on PHP builder is not representative of anything EXCEPT the distribution of users on PHPBuilder.
2: What platform one codes on is not related to the LANGUAGES one uses on that platform.
3: One could easily program ON windows for Java, PHP, Perl, Ruby, Erlang, or a dozen other languages, and then DEPLOY them to a flavor of unix.
4: If one develops on windows, using a windows only language, then one restricts oneself to deployment to windows only.

At no time did your incredibly oversimplified argument make a point against my statement, if that's what it was in fact meant to do.

Maybe you should read and comprehend the post you're replying to next time? Just a thought.
LordShryku
07-12-2005, 12:41 PM
*sigh*

For the sake of flavor, I'll say I do all of my develpment work on OS/2. I use Linux running on an Xbox farm for my production servers.
RossC0
07-12-2005, 01:21 PM
Ubuntu Linux for development (my desktop)

Linux (currently redhat but soon Debian) for deployment.
piersk
07-12-2005, 01:37 PM
I use Linux running on an Xbox farm for my production servers.

I would be so impressed if I didn't think you were being slightly sarcastic ;)
Sxooter
07-12-2005, 01:51 PM
*sigh*

For the sake of flavor, I'll say I do all of my develpment work on OS/2. I use Linux running on an Xbox farm for my production servers.

Puhleeze, we all know serious hackers use a farm of Sega Genesis machines for production servers.

Xbox is ok for staging servers though. :)
csn
07-12-2005, 04:13 PM
One could easily program ON windows for Java, PHP, Perl, Ruby, Erlang, or a dozen other languages, and then DEPLOY them to a flavor of unix.
That's what I do, mostly (sometimes I just use vi for basic editing). I haven't used desktop *nix for a long time.
Jason Batten
07-14-2005, 04:48 PM
Wha... huh... I posted out of the blue *screams and runs for cover*
dalecosp
07-14-2005, 07:12 PM
Puhleeze, we all know serious hackers use a farm of Sega Genesis machines for production servers.

Xbox is ok for staging servers though. :)Serious hackers would use a farm of nonhomogenous junk ... 486's, Pentium 75's, a few 400-500 MHz AMD based boxes, Soekris/other embedded hardware, hacked routers and mass storage devices, stacks of old mobos on plexiglass open on the table hotwired to car battery chargers, etc. Running experimental versions of the BSDs, a Linux or two (preferably with interesting names or mascots), and at least one OS by either Sun (preferred) or IBM. They own at least a third generation copy of the BSD Tahoe (on tape) and they only bring out Windows to read some idiotic proprietary file sent to them by the "lusers" out there, (y'know?) Sounds like my shop, heh heh

I'm surprised the O.P. didn't note my preference from the archives, though. Where the h--- are the BSD's in this list!!?? It's not like your OS X doesn't owe it life and stability to us, after all ... well, slight exaggeration, I guess, but when Jobs wanted quick deployment, fast processing and a stable codebase, guess what he/(they) picked? FreeBSD!

Free/Net/OpenBSD ... now here's your "other" OS :D
LordShryku
07-14-2005, 07:16 PM
BSD stands for Blue Screen of Death right? :D
dalecosp
07-14-2005, 09:45 PM
Yep ;), just as "LINUX" is a recursive acronym for "Linux: Idiots Never Understand X11" :D

Or maybe that should be "Lusers In Networking Use Xandros"?:p

:D
Sxooter
07-15-2005, 11:01 AM
So, how many 1024 CPU systems are running BSD? Just wondering.
dalecosp
07-15-2005, 07:38 PM
Single-boxen? (Does such even exist?) Probably none. Not sure that any general Linux distro scales to that size, either, but it's fairly certain that somebody's working on it, if it's not been accomplished already. Maybe *BSD will get there, dunno that they're not trying. Probably the NetBSD guys are porting to Crays, for example :D

I've got dual-CPU boxen running FBSD - can't afford 4 CPU mobos, though.

As for parallel multi-processing arrays/clusters/whate'er you may call 'em, some, but probably not quite as many as Linux, as you might well imagine, what with IBM leading the current pack in that area and building stuff with Linus' kernel in it (CNX/Linux, isn't it?). No reason I'm aware of that they couldn't run FreeBSD+MPI on their clusters, though, if they wanted to . . . .