Region Survey

[rulian]

Hey yall

I want to do a survey of programmers by geographic location,
so if you dont mind please list your city, state, and country if not obvious

I'll go first

Paterson, NJ

[laserlight]

Singapore

[NogDog]

Hey yall

I want to do a survey of programmers by geographic location,
so if you dont mind please list your city, state, and country if not obvious

I'll go first

Paterson, NJ
I'm in Cinnaminson, NJ, USA. (That's in the southern part of New Jersey that would prefer to secede from the part that contains Paterson. ;) )

[rulian]

If they do, let me know, i'll jump on that boat!

[bpat1434]

I think NJ should just dig a big trench around Camden, and float them into the ocean. Maybe they'll all kill themselves and the crime rate will finally drop :)

I'm in Baltimore, MD, but I have friends in Elizabethtown / Brick, NJ.

[piersk]

Guildford, UK


Wouldn't this have been easier to do via another web page so it's easier to collate the results?

[bradgrafelman]

I live in Mapleton, Illinois though I'm currently in Rolla, Missouri (University of Missouri-Rolla... at least, for now - name changes on Jan. 1st).

[bpat1434]

To what? What's the name changing to?

[bradgrafelman]

Missouri University of Science & Technology. MUST. Yeah... sounds great, doesn't it? :mad:

[foyer]

columbus, ohio

[rowanparker]

Leeds, UK :)

[piersk]

Leeds, UK :)

Ugh Northerner ;)

[rowanparker]

Ugh Northerner ;)
Nowt wrong with bein' a Northerner!

[piersk]

It would be easier to say whats not wrong ;)

[rowanparker]

It would be easier to say whats not wrong ;)
Ooooooooooh.
I'd rather be from the North than the South!!!!!

[paulnaj]

I'd rather be from the North than the South!!!!!It's bl**dy cold north of Watford.

London

[barand]

Th'only advantage I can see t' living in't Southeast is th'ease'f access t' Europe an't cheap booze 'n' fags.

The downside is it's an overpriced, unfriendly place full of over-inflated egos who think they're so superior to the rest of the country. They might want to look at map and see where all the national parks and areas of natural beauty are - not many down there.

(to the rest of the world - you may notice there is something of a North-South divide in the UK :) )

[paulnaj]

Methinks ...

[stolzyboy]

Fargo, North Dakota, United States

[dougal85]

Edinburgh, Scotland

Ugh Northerner ;) [talking about Leeds]

What does that make me?


(to the rest of the world - you may notice there is something of a North-South divide in the UK :) )

A Scotsman would read that and think of the Scottish English border being the divide.
An Englishman forgets about Scotland and talks about the divide between the north and south of England

I just *sigh*

[barand]

I'd love to see the look of surprise on piersk's face when he discovers you've got the internet up there too.

[barand]

Edinburgh, Scotland
A Scotsman would read that and think of the Scottish English border being the divide.
An Englishman forgets about Scotland and talks about the divide between the north and south of England



Why does that bother you? You have devolution and your own parliament. Now if only you'd take Gordon Brown and the rest back out of ours.

[piersk]

I'd love to see the look of surprise on piersk's face when he discovers you've got the internet up there too.

Yeah whatever. We all know they still put blue make up on up there, wear their hair long and shout "For Freedom!!!!" in a wierd ozzie/scottish sccent

[dougal85]

Why does that bother you? You have devolution and your own parliament. Now if only you'd take Gordon Brown and the rest back out of ours.

I'm not bothered. I just find it slightly amusing at at times and a bit silly. There are some Scottish people that I know that care far to much about it.

The only time I've ever been bothered by it was when i lived in Florida for half a year and everybody always said "so, what part of London are you from?"

[piersk]

The only time I've ever been bothered by it was when i lived in Florida for half a year and everybody always said "so, what part of London are you from?"

I love that a lot of Americans (and other countries as well, but mostly americans) think that the UK is the same size as brooklyn (or other borough of some larger city) and ask if you know so and so just because you live in the same country.

[barand]

A woman I work with was in London with her husband recently. Having a drink in a pub one of the locals noticed their accent. "Not from round here, are you?", he enquired.
"No, we're from Wigan", she replied.
"Ah, I was up near there last week", said the local guy.
"Where was that then?"
"Luton", he answered.

[paulnaj]

Someone once said-"If you're tired of London, you're tired of life".

(Oscar Wilde, I think).

[dougal85]

Funny, London doesn't interest me at all. I've only been down there about 7 or 8 times tho...

[stolzyboy]

Someone once said-"If you're tired of London, you're tired of life".

(Oscar Wilde, I think).

According to the 'ol Internet, it was Dr. Samuel Johnson that said that back in the 18th century.

[The Chancer]

Manchester, UK... and would have to agree from living North of the border, and too far down south... The North is much better :) Although as the KLF once said "It's grim up north"... lol

[dalecosp]

Southwestern Missouri, USA

And you guys across the pond need to chill out... I thought most of that was settled. A few years ago we had some guys arguing over a North-South thing and a bunch of people went and got themselves killed....

:eek:

[rulian]

Bloody brits are at it again eh chap?
LOL, sorry had to say that.

Just to ask you guys a question without starting a flame up, I've been interested to work in London for a bit, nothing permanent, but I would like to try it for a year or two. How is the job/housing market out there? Can you compare it to boston or nyc in terms of costs/salary, how difficult would it be to get working papers?

I've also been wanting to try Toronto or Montreal, I heard Montreal is the sh*t from a few reliable sources but have never been.

[dougal85]

Just to ask you guys a question without starting a flame up, I've been interested to work in London for a bit, nothing permanent, but I would like to try it for a year or two. How is the job/housing market out there? Can you compare it to boston or nyc in terms of costs/salary, how difficult would it be to get working papers?

I've also been wanting to try Toronto or Montreal, I heard Montreal is the sh*t from a few reliable sources but have never been.

I don't have any advice to give you. However, funnily enough I want to try and do the same thing possibly in the US. We could swap ;)

[piersk]

I work in Walton on Thames (just outside London). Although I work with ASP rather than PHP but as a recent graduate, my pay is approx £20k plus bonus (so about $40k ish).

As for housing, I live in Guildford (about 40 mins by train to London) and to buy a studio flat you'd be paying at least about £120k.

[rulian]

hmm... that sounds about the same to me, i'm about 2 years out of college making 35K, out of the NYC outline areas, whichtypical rent is near or past 1k a month, typical 1 bedroom condos here range from 200k in some rough spots to well into the 400k's for a 2 bedroom condo somehwere west in nj. Of course city prices will double or tripple those figures

[rulian]

I don't have any advice to give you. However, funnily enough I want to try and do the same thing possibly in the US. We could swap ;)


If your looking to come to the US, now would be a good time to start looking. This summer around here (metro area nyc) the market was a little dull for hiring, as typicial summers are, it's starting to pick up and the new year there is always an influx.

[dougal85]

I'm starting my masters in a week :) so i don't think I'll start looking for at least a year. I would like to do it somewhere hot too... hmm, It's a tough one. I really want to go everywhere!

You need to remember that £20k here will go further in the US than it would here....

[rulian]

yeah I heard London especially is expensive

[barand]

When my wife's cousin was over here from Albany,NY a few years ago she maintained that for every dollar she needed over there, she needed $4 over here in the UK (and that's outside London in the cheaper North).

[contrasites]

Atlanta, GA

[Elizabeth]

Cincinnati, Ohio

[jimbovsat]

Santa Barbara, California, USA