Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP4] Problem with old versions of 'ar' From: Sascha Schumann (sascha <email protected>)
Date: 03/28/00

On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 11:23:07AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> Sascha Schumann wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 08:30:52AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> > > But that doesn't help at all if the underlaying compiler, and more
> > > importantly the loader, does not support the new archive
> > > structure. You can't simply install GNU ar and have your system 'ld'
> > > parse the new archive. And there are many, many legacy systems
> > > out there that have gcc installed, but it's 'ld' implementation
> > > is simply collect.
> >
> > If people install binutils, they get a fresh and widely portable link editor
> > for free..
>
> That may or may not work :) Basically, you're requiring them
> to totally rebuild their entire compiler/assembler/loader system just
> so they can use GNU ar just because they can use libtool.
>
> Seems a bit much :) :)

No. You need to build one single package. There is no separate ar.

> > And the real question is: why would someone want to install PHP 4.0 on a
> > machine with 25MHz or less. Masochist? ;)
> >
>
> Nah. The question is do "we" want to make people jump through these
> hoops to be able to upgrade to 4.0 when they had to do nothing
> for 3.0. Makes no diff to me. I have a GNUar-to-SYSar converter
> that allows for libtool to use GNU ar and then repackages
> the archives to the system-type ones
>
> Again, I see this more as a libtool problem, so I hope to convince
> them of that :) I have a few different ways of addressing this :)

Good luck. They like to experiment.. I wonder when they will merge their
hundreds of different CVS branches.

- Sascha 

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