RE: [PHP-DEV] parent_ctor() From: Andi Gutmans (andi <email protected>)
Date: 07/17/00

Yep, that's what I meant. It could be solved in the serializer.

Andi

At 20:13 17/07/2000 +0300, Zeev Suraski wrote:
>As Andi pointed out, the issue of serializing references may be solved at
>some point. Stas pointed out that it shouldn't be solved at the language
>level, just as it's not solved at the language level in other languages.
>I'll point out that there's no serialization support at the 'language'
>level anyway (the language being the more narrow definition of the word,
>i.e. the scripting engine, without all of the various function modules),
>and that serialization is an 'external' feature that's implemented in
>function modules. If someone ever takes the time to implement
>serialization of references (which is possible) - he can do it any day and
>time, without touching the internals of the language.
>
>Zeev
>
>At 19:53 17-07-00, =?US-ASCII?Q?David_Hjortso?= wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>> > If you're forced to do it in Java because you don't like the OO
>> > implementation of PHP or it's not powerful enough for you, then
>> > it's *NOT* sad at all that you'd use Java. You can't say "I want to do it
>> > in PHP, but PHP can't do it at all and its entire implementation and
>>concept doesn't
>> > work this way, so I'll do it in Java". If you want the Java OO model and
>> > approach you want to do it in Java, period. Don't change PHP to be what
>> > it's not and not supposed to be; Use the right tool for the right job.
>>
>>It made sense to me :)
>>
>>What I mean is that I enjoy ALOT of the functionality that PHP has, making
>>it quite easy to manipulate data, and I will miss those if I have to go for
>>java instead of PHP. As you can see by the list I made, I don't find the
>>missing things -- except for the serializing-reference problem -- a big
>>problem.
>>
>>I don't think I am trying to bend PHP to something that it is not, since
>>there are heaps of java stuff that I will never need, but there are heaps of
>>PHP functionality that i WILL need, and that java CAN provide though not as
>>easily as PHP.
>>
>>I completely agree that PHP shouldn't try to be everything, and I am not
>>trying to make it be, I am just trying to see if it's possible to get *the*
>>functionality (again, my point of view...yadda...yadda...) that *I* need to
>>push PHP as *the* language of choice for the projects I am making, and I
>>don't think that the changes/problems I have mean that PHP should be
>>everything.
>>
>>Might be wrong though :-)
>>
>>Kind regards,
>> David Hjortsoe.
>>
>>
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