Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 / TODO From: Chuck Hagenbuch (chuck <email protected>)
Date: 10/12/00

Quoting Sebastian Bergmann <sb <email protected>>:

> - Distributed Applications

SOAP support seems like a good start for this; I believe we already have
xml-rpc, right? Also, the corba client support (satellite extension) is a good
start for the client end; letting php be the server side would be another step.

> - permanentely running PHP Application, that's not (entirely)
> http-request driven

Sounds like something that you could do with the php cgi (command line version),
disabling max_execution_time, and an event loop, though maybe additional
capabilities are needed as well.

> This was what I mentioned in a talk at the congress, I was told that Java
> application servers provide more sophisticated means for this.

Things like fail-over, etc? It'd be good to get an idea of how this could work
at the app level - I'm not really sure what java app servers provide, so I'm
asking...

> Just to make myself clear, the purpose of my mail was not to blame someone
> or to criticize PHP. PHP does currently work very good and is perfectly
> suited for low to middle complex / trafficked sites and web applications.

Of course! I'm just trying to do a little bit of devil's advocate, and also get
down into some concrete ideas of what we really need to meet these goals.

> _But_ what are the dreams / plans / visions for the future of PHP so that
> this state of "excellence" persists? Where will PHP stand in two years from
> now? Will it then still be the best choice? Will it become even better and
> take over the lead in the market of web development platforms?

I recall Zeev at one point stating that the php3 scripting engine was such a
major upgrade from the php2 state of things that he couldn't see the need for a
major rewrite anytime soon. But then he and Andi went and wrote Zend and php4.
So I'm not sure it's a question that anyone can accurately answer. Not that it
isn't worth thinking about. :)

-chuck 

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Charles Hagenbuch, <chuck <email protected>>
must... find... acorns... *thud*

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