RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request From: Rasmus Lerdorf (rasmus <email protected>)
Date: 11/15/00

We are really delving into ultra-paranoia here. Any company bright enough
to pull something like this off without being caught is bright enough to
realize how stupid it would be. Microsoft is many things, but they are
not dumb.

Any company dumb enough to try is going to get caught. And I welcome the
amazing publicity it would generate for us if we were to catch someone
doing something like this.

-Rasmus

On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Myke Hines wrote:

> I think your over-estimating company ethics. I don't know if you know of a
> company called Miva... they have a scripting language and they would love to
> take down PHP.. i have a friend that works there and managment is always
> talking about that. I know it is a big pain in the ass to try to monitor
> everything but it needs to be done.
> there are companies out there that would love to do it.. no doubt about
> that.
>
> myke
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zeev Suraski [mailto:zeev <email protected>]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:47 PM
> To: Myke Hines
> Cc: Myke Hines; Rasmus Lerdorf; Sterling Hughes; php-dev <email protected>
> Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request
>
>
> Hmm, many hackers do stuff just for the hell of it. Wouldn't it be cute if
> you could tell your friends that you can take down any one of 4 million web
> servers at will?
>
> I doubt companies such as Microsoft would ever get involved in such
> actions, especially in light of the last couple of years. It's simply not
> worth the risk for them.
>
> Zeev
>
> At 00:37 16/11/2000, Myke Hines wrote:
> >At 00:19 16/11/2000, Myke Hines wrote:
> > >>I think that is totally not true.. you can't tell if a person is a
> hacker
> > >>just because they do a couple of good patches..
> >
> >
> > >You can't tell for sure. For all you know, you could argue that I (Zeev)
> > >might be an undercover Bin Laden agent, in one of the most successful
> > >undercover missions in history, trying to bring down the entire
> > >imperialistic American web. Possible, but unlikely.
> >
> > >I gather that someone committing legitimate patches may still be a
> hacker,
> > >but the likelihood goes down, significantly.
> > >Zeev
> >
> >Just think of the possibility. Who is PHP A threat to? Microsoft.. I
> >really would be surprised if they got a person that knew PHP well to start
> >introducing bugs in the PHP core.. therfore lowering the quality of PHP and
> >giving people more of an excuse to use ASP. i know this is far fetched but
> >is a $$ world out there..
> >
> >food-for-thought
> >myke
>
> --
> Zeev Suraski <zeev <email protected>>
> CTO, Zend Technologies Ltd. http://www.zend.com/
>
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