Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/sablot php_sablot.h From: Stig Sæther Bakken (ssb <email protected>)
Date: 08/12/01

[Zeev Suraski <zeev <email protected>>]
> Guys,
>
> It's really simple, even trivial soft-dev issue, which is discussed in
> a completely broken manner, because you pour politics into the picture.

But Zeev, as much as it sucks, there _is_ politics in the picture, and
there has always been, especially in PHP 4.

Some people are uncomfortable with the control Zend Inc. has on the
core of PHP. I don't know if that is what you think is childish, but
I certainly don't. With the current state of the Internet economy in
mind, I think people have a right to be a bit paranoid.

To speak for myself, I have two problems with the whole "Zend versus
PHP" problem:

* It causes a lot of unnecessary arguing and bickering on the mailing
  list (like this message), which in the end becomes discouraging for
  everyone. The result: "F* it, I'm sick of silly PHP politics, I'm
  switching to Foo."

* The design of the language is basically run by two people, whom I
  suspect don't program much with PHP themselves anymore. If this
  assumption is true, there is a lot of valuable "hands on user
  experiences" missing from the language design process.

 - Stig

-- 
  Stig Sæther Bakken <ssb <email protected>>
  Fast Search & Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway

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