Re: [phplib] The change to PEAR... From: Alex Black (enigma <email protected>)
Date: 01/18/01

hi all,

I have established a list specifically for the discussion of
pear-phplib-binarycloud:

http://www.egroups.com/group/pear-phplib-binarycloud

join up :)

The goal of this list is to come up with a plan such that binarycloud + pear
are interoperable.

I've invited:
    Stig bakken
    Kristian Koehntopp
    Sterling Hughes
    Sebastian Bergmann
    Rasmus Lerdorf
    Ulf Wendel
    Chuck Hagenbuch 

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> From: "nathan r. hruby" <nhruby <email protected>>
> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:01:40 -0500
> To: <chris <email protected>>, <phplib <email protected>>
> Subject: Re: [phplib] The change to PEAR...
> 
> On 1/18/01 7:53 PM, "Chris Johnson" <chris <email protected>> wrote:
> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nathan r. hruby [mailto:nhruby <email protected>]
>> 
>>> users.  My beef is with the fact that as it stands now, PEAR
>>> is not very
>>> useful nor very well designed (that i can tell) in terms of
>>> scaling up
>>> to something the size of CPAN.  Or even scaling to anything
>>> larger than
>>> it is now. (also the PEAR DB class just ain't db_sql, but
>>> that is really
>>> my biased and subjective opnion)
>> 
>> I'd argue that it's not desirable to make PEAR become as big as CPAN,
>> ever.
>> 
>> Every now and then over the past 12 years, I've been tempted to learn
>> Perl.  Most recently was right before I learned PHP two years ago.  I
>> don't think I'll ever be tempted again.  Perl and its many libraries
>> have grown too big -- there's just far too much there to get my arms
>> around it in any reasonable length of time.  Technology changes too
>> fast, I've got a life to live (you know, wife, children, hobbies, etc.),
>> and I'm perfectly capable of getting everything done using a combination
>> of shell scripts, AWK, PHP, C, SQL, JavaScript and Java.
>> 
>> I worry about PHP becoming the next Perl.  I hope it doesn't.  I've
>> learned two languages with hundreds of commands.  I don't need or want
>> to learn another one.  :-b
>> 
> 
> NO!  I certainly don't want PHP to become the next perl.  That's why I
> believe we need to "over-engineer" PEAR now so that it doesn't grow into the
> vast huge thing CPAN is.  We need to make sure that, if needed, it can grow
> to the size of CPAN, but still be manageable and understandable.
> 
> I am certainly preaching to the wrong list here..
> 
> In a slightly different tangent.. I think it might be handy to setup a
> phplib-pear-port list so discussions like this can happen without chasing
> away the fine phplib users who just wanna know how to make sessions work
> right with ie5.
> 
> -n
> 
> ........
> nathan hruby
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> Project Maintainer: phpSlash, Carousel
> nhruby <email protected>
> ........
> 
> 
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