php-db | 2000112

Re[3]: [PHP-DB] Re: MySql or postgre? From: Alexey Borzov (borz_off <email protected>)
Date: 11/30/00

Greetings, Paul!

At 30.11.2000, 11:30, you wrote:
>>::shrug::
>>Transactions are a vital part of RDBMS. If its developers fail to
>>understand this (or fail to implement them) - then...

PD> You're arguing both sides of the question. Here you claim that the MySQL
PD> developers fail to understand the importance of adding transaction support,
PD> they are incompetent. Previously you argued that because they added
PD> transaction support, they are incompetent just because they didn't do all
PD> the work themselves.

PD> In any case, I doubt that the developers have ever claimed that transactions
PD> are *not* important, just that in their view other things (like speed) are
PD> more important for the applications they needed. The addition of transaction
PD> support happened because they were able to build on the work of others. You
PD> characterize that as incompetence. I'd say it makes a lot of sense to use
PD> that approach, rather than reinventing the wheel.
    There is only one side of the question:
_If_ MySQL is a standards-compliant RDBMS then transactions are a vital part
of it (read the SQL standard) and should be implemented in the core
engine (as my quite limited programming experience tells me), not as
"second party addons". If it is not - then be _honest_ about it,
drop that annoying 'SQL' part, rename it to something like
My-Flat-File-DB-with-SQL-like-interface. And stop comparing it with
_real_ RDBMS's (be it Interbase, Postgres or Oracle).
    The problem is that most of MySQL's users are not knowledgeable enough to
understand its limits, and MySQL's developers and advocates are
sometimes reluctant to admit them... They only talk 'speed'...

PD> I take it you never use any software you didn't write yourself, because
PD> that would mean you weren't competent to write it?
    Please enlighten me, what leads you to such a conclusion? 

-- 
Yours, Alexey V. Borzov, Webmaster of RDW

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