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Re: [PHP-DEV] transparent output compression patch From: Andi Gutmans (andi <email protected>)
Date: 11/13/00

At 06:42 PM 11/13/00 +0100, Thies C. Arntzen wrote:
>On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 06:53:59PM +0200, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> > At 18:45 13-11-00, Thies C. Arntzen wrote:
> > >On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 05:52:37PM +0200, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> > > > Damn :) We'll have to merge code now. I'll first get your
> original code
> > > > to work, and then you'd could merge in your changes.
> > > >
> > > > Zeev
> > >
> > > do we really think this belongs into a scripting language? i
> > > think that transparent output compression should be part of
> > > the web-server (like an apache 2.0 filter) or a proxy in
> > > front of the server.
> >
> > I don't see any reason for this not to be in the scripting language. It's
> > useful, there's no current way of doing this (we're still years away from
> > wide Apache 2.0 acceptance), why not support it?
>
> we rejected a similar patch (for 3.0) for the very same
> reason around a year ago if i recall right. but that would be
> no reason to reject it now - i agree.

The reason was that in 3.0 it was terrible. It was a real PHP core hack but
with the output buffering it can be done very cleanly and nicely.

> >
> > There are things in PHP that are completely not useful for Web development
> > and nobody cares about them - I wouldn't start rejecting useful
> > functionality because it "doesn't belong in the scripting language"...
>
> i played around with the output-compression tools that are
> around and i'm not too impressed. but who knows maybe they
> had problems with my applications simply _because_ they
> weren't written by us and integrated into php;-)
>
> if we have a clean enough interface for this and it doesn't
> end up as a "hack" i agree -> let's get it in.

I guess I addressed this before reading the second part of your mail :)

Andi 

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Andi Gutmans <andi <email protected>>
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