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Re: [PHP] <button> and </button> From: Leif K-Brooks (eurleif <email protected>)
Date: 02/24/03

Why not just use a form with nothing but a button?
<form action="pagetogoto" method="get">
<input type="submit" value="Button text" />
</form>

Sunfire wrote:

>i do have something about the fact that this web site is "user friendly" or
>not.. and so does the other person that i work with. we tried to tell him
>that a link would look just fine there and everybody could use it even with
>very old browsers (if ther are any out there). we also told him for
>accessability reasons (for screen readers for the blind0) buttons that run
>from gava or javascript wouldnt work in every situation that came to his web
>site and that what we are trying to do is make the page usable by
>"everybody" .. well he said basically that this web site isnt being used for
>"everybody" and it is only used for pastors that need somewhere to go and
>get info and relief from problems they might have and dont want to tell
>people in their church about it.
>
>told him that he cant predict every thing out there and maybe a blind or
>some other disabled pastor came over to his site.. well.. with so many
>graphical things on the page (table borders dark color on dark color
>background color) buttons java based graphics that move around and all that
>nifty stuff.. he basically told me if i want his "$40" to write this prayer
>request board of his then i will do what he says or we dont get to do
>anymore with the whole site at all..
>
>
>well im sort of confused now... what is reasonable price for this client to
>pay anyways? i mean $40 for like 3 or so hours of work doing html/php/sql
>for this board..?? i heard of people getting a heck of a lot more than that
>before but i wouldnt know right at this point since the person that i work
>for told me i was going to get paid $30/hour for php/sql.. fine but $15 an
>hour for each language? heck no (at least i dont think so anyways) maybe $30
>an hour each for a newbie so if a script had php and sql it would be
>$60/hour not $30
>
>oh well sorry if i vented and dumped on you all (didnt intend on it but just
>happened i guess) but let me know what you all think and if there are any
>better ideas that can be done here...
>
>really i am a newbie at php/sql and dont know what is reasonable for being
>paid.. $30/hour just sounds good but i heard i could do lots better..
>
>
>let me know]]
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "- Edwin" <copperwa11s <email protected>>
>To: "Sunfire" <rusty_81 <email protected>>
>Cc: <php-general <email protected>>
>Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 8:43 PM
>Subject: Re: [PHP] <button> and </button>
>
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>>"Sunfire" <rusty_81 <email protected>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>this is true i guess but he doesnt want an image that looks
>>>like a button he wants a 100% true authentic button that is
>>>depressed when you click it and if the image doesnt move when
>>>
>>>
>>? You can make something that can be "depressed" with just
>>images--only you have to use javascript to make it work...
>>
>>
>>
>>>you click on it he will throw a 600% royal fit and none the
>>>less he doesnt really care if people with no java support can
>>>or cant get to his site .. that is more the less their problem
>>>to figure out not mine or his...
>>>
>>>guess you have to make everybody happy somehow when making web
>>>sites and stuff...
>>>
>>>
>>Sounds like you and you're client are not at all concerned about
>>the *visitors* of your website. Who is going to use the site
>>anyway? I hope you're client understands the term "user-friendly".
>>..
>>
>>
>>
>>>but i tested a browser with java support turned on and one with
>>>it turned off and from what i could see they both worked with
>>>the button i have (and my client should be very impressed since
>>>the button actually depresses when you click it or hit enter on
>>>it)..
>>>
>>>
>>Java and javascript are different--please don't confuse the two...
>>try it again and see if it'll work with JAVASCRIPT turned off...
>>
>>- E
>>
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