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Re: [PHP3] PERL QUESTION:alive or dead? From: Alex Turner (musicmaker <email protected>)
Date: 05/08/00

Perl... Java... PHP, C and others...

Perl it seems to me is heading the way of java, only worse. The number of
modules in perl that we have used from CPAN that had memory leaks is
amazing, FCGIs are horrible, and mod_perl is worse still. Only problem is
Java is as slow as molasses and eats memory for breakfast, only the good
programmers dare to write Apache modules in C, and PHP is an application
engine, and many people simply don't like application engines (although
I'm not included in that group) given the track record of ColdFusion and
ASP. People have to use something, and until the perfect solution comes
along (and of course Oracle think that 8i is - although they should know
better given the price tag), people will continue to use the one thing
that they can rely on... The thing that they know. As the saying goes:
better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

Although personaly I am better my job on PHP right now, so I'm really
hoping it works out!! ;)

Alex T.

Oh, and btw.. I think that perl should die, it's a lame animal thats
really only good for scripting IMHO - which is what is was originaly
designed for. If you want threads, use real threads etc...

On Sun, 7 May 2000 php3 <email protected> wrote:

> Addressed to: Dean James <sacramone <email protected>>
> php3 <email protected>
>
> ** Reply to note from Dean James <sacramone <email protected>> Sat, 06 May 2000 21:07:59 -0700
> >
> > Is Perl gonna be a program language of the future (and past), or is
> > its days numbered??
> >
>
> Perl is not going away any time soon, but its days as the default way to
> create dynamic web pages has passed.
>
> It is still viable because of all the cool non-web things you can do
> with it. The web had not even been thought of when Larry Wall started
> on Perl, (1986) and I have a feeling that even now there are more
> non-web Perl programs out there. (I get to count every little
> throw-away script some sys-admin once wrote to save himself some typing,
> right? :)
>
> I don't think Perl is dead yet, but CGI should be! The idea of running
> a CGI program for each web request should go the way of the hitching
> post. (You know, the place where you tie up your horse when you go to
> town.) The only reason (IMHO) for CGI versions of a program is when you
> need to run as a specific user. Almost everything can be done by nobody
> in a PHP module or a mod_perl program, and it will run MUCH faster than
> having to spawn a new process for each CGI program that is run.
>
> I will spare you my opinion on Perl vs. PHP, but you see which mailing
> list I read...
>
>
> > now, at my work, they praise java blah blah blah
>
> When you consider all the in-fighting in the Java camp, I'd be more
> worried about the death of Java than Perl. Seems to me I just read
> something about a new disagreement between IBM and Sun on Java, and
> Microsoft has been doing everything possible to contaminate or kill it.
> As long as Larry Wall, or someone else is interested, Perl will survive.
>
>
>
>
> Rick Widmer
> Internet Marketing Specialists
> www.developersdesk.com
>
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