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[PHP3] Re: CF vs PHP performance (was Re: [PHP3] RE: [PHP4BETA] Marketing Plan was Re: [PHP4BETA] Helpcraft PHP description From: Alex Black (enigma <email protected>)
Date: 05/14/00

> Hi Alex,
>
> Since you have been so kind (some might say bold ;-) ) as to share you
> experience of migrating from CF to PHP -- would you be able to further
> quantify the 10X improvement you described?

yes.... local page render time.

so if you remove any network speed considerations, how long does it take to
render the page? on average, the 'home page' took 10 seconds for CF, 1-1.5
for PHP3.

> Where did the improvements show up, "response numbers for what types and
> quantity of operations specifically?

the site is able to handle more traffic (ala load tests... I don't think I'd
like to say how many for sec. purposes)

> And are you able to cite specific levels of "Before ##" vs "After ##"

above. I was amazed.

> Many thanks for any details you can provide.

sure...

some tests:

Average Home page render, in seconds, CF:
TRY FULL PAGE RENDER (seconds)
1 10.25
2 11
3 9
4 12.5
5 8
6 9.5

Average Home page render, in seconds, PHP3:
TRY FULL PAGE RENDER (seconds)
1 1
2 1.5
3 1
4 1
5 1
6 1.5

tee-hee-hee :)

they love me :)

best,

_alex

> Sincerely,
> Tom Henry
>
>
> At 02:36 PM 5/13/00 -0700, Alex Black wrote:
>> dealing with the database.
>>
>> There are plenty of PHP abstraction layers out there for oracle, but to be
>> honest they all suck (or at least the ones I saw).
>>
>> we used something off the web, and heavily modified it, but managing the DB
>> connections was kind of a headache.
>>
>> that doesn't say anything about PHP, it just means for my next project I'll
>> be commissioning a 'god' to write me a serious abstraction layer, and
>> provide guidelines for its use. assuming I like it, I'll put it out.
>>
>> other than that, generally getting logic out of CF was ok, but CF is messy
>> as hell, and we had to do a lot of cleanup.
>>
>> a lack of 'embedded' date functions in PHP 3 was a bummer... we built our
>> own which are ok, but in my opinion not publishable, yet :)
>>
>> the site is roughly 10 times faster now. I'm not bullshitting, those are
>> real response numbers. it was surprising even to me :)
>>
>> I intend to stick with PHP for all future projects.
>>
>> best,
>>
>> -alex
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alex Black, Head Monkey
>> enigma <email protected>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>> From: "Wizaerd" <wizaerd <email protected>>
>>> Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 14:23:47 -0700
>>> To: "Php3 Mailing List" <php3 <email protected>>
>>> Subject: RE: [PHP3] RE: [PHP4BETA] Marketing Plan was Re: [PHP4BETA]
>> Helpcraft
>>> PHP description
>>>
>>>
>>>> We did a full port from CF, which was completely screwing them it was so
>>>> slow. But I definitely had my problems. There is _very little_ actual
>>>> commercial experience out there that is documented, and I would
>>>> like to be a
>>>> part of changing that.
>>>
>>> What was the most difficult part in converting or porting from
>> ColdFusion ot
>>> PHP?
>>>
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>>> a.k.a. Wizaerd
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